Debt ceiling
Dear editor:
In Wednesday, December 23, your editorial opinion attempted to suggest that raising the debt ceiling by $290 billion before the end of the first part of the 111st Congress on New Year's Eve is "hiding the truth". While your editorial did hit all the right-wing 'conservative' talking points, it is disingenuous to imply that 'liberals' (a word you used three times in your piece in an unflattering manner) are attempting to raise the debt ceiling without necessity and impulsively.
A responsible editor would remind its readers of the underlying reasons of the current deficits and national debt of $12 trillion (unless one would subscribe to the beliefs of the 2009 'Conservative of the Year' Award winner, former VP Richard B. Cheney, who said "deficits don't matter").
The Bush 43 Administration tax cuts for the more fortunate in 2001 and 2003, pushed for by the US Chamber of Commerce; the two Bush recessions (2001 and the one starting in 2007) reduced income tax revenue income; the $800 billion Medicare Part D prescription drug benefit bill passed by Republican-controlled Congress, written by Big PhARMA for Bush without paying for it; a trillion-dollar invasion and occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan by Bush; and $600 billion spent annually on the defense department added to the debt. Not exactly 'liberal'-supported ideas. Saint Reagan, added the first $6 trillion to the debt. Bush gave us $5 trillion.
Wasn't it Clinton who gave us a surplus and paid on the national debt? Clinton budget surpluses caused the Fed Chairman Greenspan to declare that the US would be out of debt by 2010 and generating surpluses of $800 billion a year. He must have never imagined the damage Republicans could again cause the nation.
An informed editor would recommend an increase in taxes to attack the debt as well as a reduction in deficit spending by not invading and occupying Middle Eastern countries; maintaining 800 military bases worldwide; tax giveaways for the wealthy; an increase in the gasoline tax for infrastructure investments; a transaction tax on Wall Street; as a start. Or we could just bring back the 'conservatives'....can you say Cheney/Palin 2012........hm!
John Cecil Baughman
Marienville
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muskie
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01-12-10 6:03 PM
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I hope you're kidding about Cheney-Palin. Mabe they will go hunting and shoot each other!
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painfultruth
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01-04-10 9:48 PM
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To a point, I agree with this statement "...the current perilous fiscal situation for the US NOT Obama..." However, add in Obama (fat kid in a candy store with $100 bucks) and Obama would be part of the problem. The problem started back in the 1940's. When government decided to have an Income Tax. Last best President... George Washington.
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Morrison
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01-04-10 4:11 PM
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Ya know I really USED to like Canadians. Thanks for educating me Payne. Imagine how fast Mexico will be in Ontario when the US falls.
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Morrison
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01-04-10 4:08 PM
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don't forget the Eisenhower that shipped about a million wet backs home.
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justobserving
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01-04-10 12:26 PM
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Your right skysmom, I wanted to say Carter, Oh well I was partially right, Another give it all away Dem.
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ErnestPayne
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01-04-10 10:33 AM
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The Eisenhower that: started the War in Vietnam that killed 500,000 + Vietnamese, started the civil war in Guatemala that killed 600,000 Guatemalans in the next 30 years, that overthrew the democratically elected government in Iran, and started the military industrial complex? Lessison you would be far better off with fewer "real" presidents.
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Wallon
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01-04-10 6:48 AM
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I LIKED THE TITLE MR BAUGHMAN USED IN HIS LETTER TO THE EDITOR..I REFER TO SAINT REAGAN..I WISH I HAD THOUGHT OF IT..LOL
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Morrison
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01-03-10 12:16 PM
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The last real American president was Eisenhower.
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skysmom
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01-02-10 10:23 AM
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While all of you are correct, one note is missing in the writers letter, "Saint Reagen" cut taxes to stimulate(a word libs love)the economy from a failing Clinton economy(remember failing tech companies?) I still say term limits, cut corperate political donations, and outlawing lobbies will go a long way to balance the budget. Raising taxes on an already stressed economy would be devistating. Hate My Hometown: I know that. I'm just wondering how it is that no one else has noticed the mistake. Don't think these yahoos should complain about errors in WTO anymore!
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Morrison
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01-02-10 8:53 AM
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Payne freedom of speech is fine. Wasting it is what you do. You really should come on down and partake of some of our wonderful programs for the mentally challenged minorities.
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skysmom
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01-02-10 4:31 AM
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to "justobserving" when you "observe" and call out someone on their politics, check your facts before typing...Reagan was president before Clinton so he didn't cut taxes to stimulate a failing Clinton economy. he cut taxes for his cronies. and the failing tech companies happened during Reagan's terms. {whats wong with the rest of you brains who didn't catch that?}
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ErnestPayne
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01-01-10 9:03 PM
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"No reason for being in the conversation"?. Would it be possible for you to elucidate? Is freedom of speech restricted to only a select few?
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Backwoods
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01-01-10 6:43 PM
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Morrison - I agree with you totally about Payne.
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ErnestPayne
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01-01-10 6:22 PM
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I am not "pushing" socialism on you or anyone else. Its your insecurity that leads you to believe that. Having lived in both countries I have perspectives, and knowledge, you don't. Raygun's "new dawn in america" twaddle of unfettered free enterprise undid a century of common sense legislation. Combined with the crazy bush regimes religious war in the middle east it has put paid to the US as the "supreme power" in the world. The British Empire began its decline in the 1870's but was not obvious until it came to paying for World War 1. The final collapse was immediately after World War 2 some 65 years after it began its decline.
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Morrison
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01-01-10 4:43 PM
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Payne really can push my buttons. I guess because he's not just a left wing liar, but a foreign one with no business being in the conversation in the first place.
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Backwoods
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01-01-10 4:35 PM
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ErnestPayne - because of the way your always bragging about how great Canada is.
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Backwoods
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01-01-10 4:32 PM
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ErnestPayne - I'm just curious why you are so intent in pushing your form of socialism on the people of Warren county?
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Morrison
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01-01-10 2:10 PM
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Obama is the only man in my lifetime I recall stating twice---that he was going to do 8 years. If you missed that in his campaign, you probably missed the rest of his agenda. He's more arrogant than "W" ever could strive to be.
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ErnestPayne
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01-01-10 1:49 PM
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Of course I am a "socialist" but then your knowledge of "socialism" is probably very limited. You might want to check out the "socialism" of the US foreign aid or tax cuts for the wealthy. That is not my kind of "socialism".
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Backwoods
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01-01-10 12:08 PM
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ErnestPayne - from reading your posts I began to think that everything I knew about Canada was wrong, guess I wasn't you are a socialist.
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writer10
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01-01-10 12:03 PM
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Clinton has more to do with the current situation than most may realize. It was Clinton who made it easier for banks to give loans out like candy. It was under Clinton that US companies fled to Mexico and China. It takes years and years of build up for this large scale of an event to take place. Yeah, Bush is at fault for not moving fast enough to reverse Clinton era policies as they began to fail. Also Bush's policies weren't that great either. It took both Clinton and Bush to get us to where we are. Obama, so far has done absolutely nothing but spend and spend and spend. This behavior will only hurt us even more.
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ErnestPayne
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01-01-10 11:48 AM
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You could end the possibility of local school closings by using the adult education available (I hope). That or just go back to high school and enroll.
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Backwoods
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01-01-10 10:48 AM
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ErnestPayne - I must admit I don't know anything about the Canadian political system and you have stated more than once " how its done in Canada ". My point is that from all of your posting you favor the ( radical left socialistic platform ). So what I was wondering is Canada governed by socialism? Do you all still say " God save the Queen " and that sort of thing? Dose England still have any influence in your political system? From your posting I'm lead the think that your ( health care ) is socialistic, am I right about that? I'd like a little better understanding of where your coming from.
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ErnestPayne
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01-01-10 9:21 AM
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Aaron, he Bush controlled government produced the current perilous fiscal situation for the US NOT Obama. Lessison Obama has been in office for less than ONE year NOT EIGHT years. As for the rest of the postings (so far). Go take some courses in economics, history, etc.
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Morrison
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12-31-09 8:36 PM
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Clinton didn't have the war on terror to deal with. He screwed up enough in Somalia, and Bosnia---but he had time to bring our children into the world of non-sex, and the meaning of is. The collection of stains for leverage. Thanks libs. He's no hero of mine.
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