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Health care

POSTED: December 17, 2009

Dear editor:

It was amazing and quite ironic to read that Congressman Thompson (R-5) announced Monday, Dec. 14, the $350,000 appropriation for the Tidioute Health Center.

This center will be a more convenient place for rural residents to access healthcare and dental help without a drive to Warren or Titusville. It will provide temporary construction jobs and permanent healthcare jobs...a welcome accomplishment in this economic environment!

Don't we wonder why Congressman Thompson voted against the proposed health care bill? Why does he take advantage of handing out tax dollars yet avoids a hand up to Americans in health jeopardy?

According to Congresswoman Kathy Dahlkemper (D-3) the new health care bill will give nearly 400,000 PA residents business-based coverage, help 172,000 households afford health insurance and improve Medicare for over 100,000 people in our Commonwealth.

We wish to see Health Care legislation for the new year!

Mark and Karen Davis

Warren

 
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painfultruth
12-22-09 4:46 AM
Can someone please tell the Anoited one?

There is a difference between health care and health cost.

Here in the USA, we don't have a health care problem, we have a health cost problem.

We have the best health care in the world. We have people from other countries that come to America for health care.

If you follow the money.. you will find out what the problem is... stop listening to individuals that are spewing out pig waste.

But, hey, I am looking forward to having my coverage provided to me from a board of individuals that don't know me but want to control my care.

To the democrats... up yours.

painfultruth
12-22-09 4:36 AM
Did you know about this one?????

What have the Democrats managed to tuck into this 1,900 page healthcare bill?

Section 2531, entitled "Medical Liability Alternatives," establishes an incentive program for states to adopt and implement alternatives to medical liability litigation. [But]...... a state is not eligible for the incentive payments if that state puts a law on the books that limits attorneys' fees or imposes caps on damages.

Well that's rather obvious, isn't it? Just what in the*****does this have to do with health care reform? How does protecting trial lawyer's contingency fees improve the delivery and quality of health care to the American people? It is a gift from Nancy Pelosi directly to trial lawyers ... trial lawyers who contribute tens of millions of dollars to Democrats in every election year. Any changes made on medical liability lawsuits will not be allowed to affect the livelihood for her beloved trial lawyers.

painfultruth
12-22-09 4:33 AM
If the Democrats were truly concerned about improving the delivery of health care and making insurance more affordable they would have tried at least one of the following three options:

1.Give individuals the right to deduct the cost of a health insurance policy from their taxable income. Your employer can do it, why not you?

2.Allow insurance companies to market their products across state lines.

3.Allow people to organize into groups for the purpose of buying health insurance policies.

The evil Republicans proposed all three of these ideas, and more. All were shot down by Democrats.

The goal here is control. Nothing more, nothing less. Control = power. Do the math.

Morrison
12-19-09 1:10 PM
Why does everyone talk about a health bill that has not been seen outside the committees? The demorats will vote to pass something they don't even read. Party, party, party!

Morrison
12-19-09 1:08 PM
In the future, those who don't live in government housing will have to live with their relatives.....OMG!

writer10
12-18-09 2:14 PM
Actually I do have health insurance, I need it to cover the family, VA doesn't do that. Also I had to move in order to get a job. In fact I moved 3 or 4 times in a years time seeking better jobs. Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do, otherwise you're just whining. Granted I would never want to give up my home and stuff, but like I said, you gotta do what you gotta do in order to make it.

Morrison
12-18-09 11:56 AM
Throw them all out. I'm dead serious. There is no risk, no consequence to the crimes of the protected few in DC. The most they can do is try to prosecute members of the opposing party. There's no change coming that we can bear.

AntiLiberalism
12-17-09 10:46 PM
Look at the stooges applauding the government tossing bread crumbs into the crowd. LOL. Don't you fools realize these temporary fixes are only temporary???? What a joke. Stop relying on the government to bail you out for a change. Pick yourselves up and vote against the tyrannical bread crumb throwers. Look at how you are living and then look at how the liberal politicians who are throwing you the crumbs are living. Are you really that self loathing to vote for anybody who steals your money and then jetsets around the world with their families laughing at the morons who voted for them? Just another liberal con job.

Chris89
12-17-09 6:48 PM
The idea that one should have to literally pack up and move just to get access to decent health care is absurd on every level. Are we a civilized society or aren't we? Health care is a basic necessity and shouldn't depend on a job.

muskie
12-17-09 6:31 PM
I'd also like to know where you think I can go to get a job? writer10. Maybe you haven't noticed we have the worst job market since the great depression. The whole country is in the same boat.

muskie
12-17-09 6:25 PM
Writer 10, I am working,but no healthcare is offered,and you certainly can't buy it on a minimum wage job,which Warren Co. is famous for now. As for moving,I've lived here 55 years,and at my current residence for 34. Would YOU want to pack up and leave? I see you have it made, you get VA benfits. Are you on medicare also? I can see why you dont care about the rest of us. I see on the news that the average family pays over 13 thousand dollars a year for insurance. It's hard to buy insurance at that price when that is my gross income for the year.

Morrison
12-17-09 6:13 PM
I'm of the opinion that most Americans want the best health care available but don't want to pay for it. Forced payment or fines are unconstitutional. In one breath they brag about Medicare, tell you it's going broke, is horribly abused, and some of it must be cut to give insurance to others. That's the government we have elected. God knows what they can sneak into it before it's a done deal. The insurance companies are the only wealth the government hasn't grabbed. I don't like paying big premiums, BUT nobody should suffer or die in this country because they are poor. I just don't think it shoud be decided on a political party basis.

Chris89
12-17-09 5:43 PM
Who exactly are you to make that judgment, writer10?

Say, don't you get VA benefits?

writer10
12-17-09 5:17 PM
muskie you lost your job six years ago and yet you haven't found another. Must have been unwilling to move from the area. Which means the blame lies on you for lack of health coverage.

muskie
12-17-09 5:08 PM
Mark and Karen,I lost my job 6 yrs. ago,and our insurance. 2 yrs. later we got it through my wife's job. NOW she's losing her job and insurance. Her store is closing. We had to quit everything,no Dr. visits,no tests,no bloodwork,had to stop taking all our medications,can't afford it. Worried about losing our home if we got sick or hurt. And here we go again. I'd give anything to have an affordable public option available right now. But I guess the idiots in the Senate have already tossed that out. The insurance companys have won again. I wonder how much our congressmen have been paid off. 10-15 years from now when 200 million people can't afford insurance,things MIGHT get changed.

writer10
12-17-09 1:28 PM
They left out the new bill will also put a 40 som'n % tax on current medical coverage, cost the middle class who knows how much to fund it. Also look how well the gov. runs the CDC, do you really want them this involved in the rest of the health care. I've already been there, and it was not good.

Chris89
12-17-09 12:58 PM
*not so bad.

Of course people don't want the government to run health care. I don't even particularly want the government to run health care, and I'm about as left as you can get. We're talking about insurance. Medicare, Medicaid - these are good programs. Let's improve and expand them. Let's put an end to private insurance. Do you know that we're subsidizing private insurance to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars? The government already spends 9.7% of GDP on health care (as opposed to 6.9% in Canada). We can bring that spending down and, at the same time, finance a system that covers all Americans.

Will taxes increase under such a system? Maybe. Compare the minimal increase in taxes to the money out of pocket many Americans pay for private health insurance that literally tries everyday to rip them off as much as possible. It's a steal.

Chris89
12-17-09 12:53 PM
Why do you think we spend more than any other country on health care? We spend up to 3 times more than they do on administration alone. And 60 cents on every health care dollar is government money. It should not cost any more for us to transition to a single-payer system than we're already paying for our current system which leaves millions uninsured and underinsured; in fact, we'll save money by cutting out those unnecessary costs that are characteristic of a private health insurance system. That's why the "public option" is really not a very good compromise - a public insurance option only adds to the mountains of paperwork that our system is already trying to handle. What we need to do is eliminate all the private insurers and put everybody under one insurance provider: the government. It's not a takeover of health care, it's a takeover of the insurance industry. And ask most people on Medicare - as much as some people like to grumble, Medicare's really not so ba

Chris89
12-17-09 12:49 PM
"The idea that government-run health care will save money is contrary to every track record the government has ever had with large scale projects."

Well, to begin with, we're not talking about government-run health care (as in the UK model). We're talking about a government takeover of the insurance industry. The doctors and hospitals would remain private.

Private insurers generate a lot of waste (which has nothing to do with health care) - overhead, billing, underwriting, marketing, not to mention executive salaries and bonuses. The savings on paperwork would amount to more than $350 billion per year. Under our current system, a lot of money is spent on people who avoid going to the doctor because they're either uninsured or underinsured; single-payer would encourage earlier treatment.

Chris89
12-17-09 12:40 PM
Then how do you interpret the polling data that shows, without a doubt, that Americans favor the public option?

TheKeymaker
12-17-09 12:28 PM
Nor could I......

danyay
12-17-09 12:03 PM
I really don't know what to say. The idea that government-run health care will save money is contrary to every track record the government has ever had with large scale projects.

"most Americans want more government intervention in the health care system"

I couldn't disagree more.

Chris89
12-17-09 11:55 AM
I think Americans, on the whole, have disdain for the health insurance industry and - when you set aside buzz words like "socialism" and "government takeover" - most Americans want more government intervention in the health care system.

I don't agree that we can't feasibly cover every American. Why do you think Democratic leaders won't put single-payer on the table? If the CBO analyzed single-payer, it would blow this "compromise" out of the water. Single-payer is the most efficient and cheapest solution to our health care woes. It is the fiscally conservative route. I understand why conservatives are opposed on a small-government, ideological level, but fiscally and statistically speaking, it's a no-brainer.

But unprincipled compromise is a fundamental part of this political system. So is corporate influence. That's why we're stuck with this monstrosity of a bill.

danyay
12-17-09 11:45 AM
You're right though, at least in the couple polls I've seen so far.

CNN says public option support is 53% favor-46% opposed, while general health care bill is 36% favor and 61% (!!) oppose.

What is the disconnect between the public option and the plans in Congress (pre-removal of public option)? Well it's simple. Everyone wants every American covered. But to implement that, you have to start either rationing care, cutting existing benefits to Medicare and the like, or balloon the deficit. There's no other explanation.

So while pie-in-the-sky "public option" support remains high, once you actually take that out of the mythical bubble of "good idea on paper" kind of state, the support plummets.

danyay
12-17-09 11:42 AM
The bill is based on the public option. General support for the bill is based on that tenet.

You found a poll that I didn't quote though. You quoted November, let's quote December.

Quinnipiac: 38% approve, 52% disapprove of the health care bills under consideration by Congress.

htt p://ww w.politico.c om/blogs/glennthrush/1209/Poll_Only_38_percent_support_health_care_bill.html

"OBAMA APPROVAL FALLS TO NEW LOW, QUINNIPIAC UNIVERSITY NATIONAL POLL FINDS; U.S. VOTERS OPPOSE HEALTH CARE PLAN BY WIDE MARGIN"

You are very good, however, to be able to spin a headline like that.

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