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Selling gayness

February 13, 2014

Dear editor: So to capture the bottom line in Fr. Neff’s letter about “selling gayness” - only in the manufactured world of advertising do “normal-looking gay people” do “normal things....

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WarrenitegoneWest

Feb-14-14 8:52 AM

So, Fr. John, if you are not literally, "In your pulpit" you can use any other medium to violate the 501(c)3 code that grants your church tax exemption? Most of the priests I know are priests 24/7, so when you use your office of pastor to post your very un-Christ-like judgment on this conservative rag, WTO, you are still violating that code.

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WarrenitegoneWest

Feb-14-14 8:52 AM

So, Fr. John, if you are not literally, "In your pulpit" you can use any other medium to violate the 501(c)3 code that grants your church tax exemption? Most of the priests I know are priests 24/7, so when you use your office of pastor to pass your very un-Christ-like judgment on this conservative rag, WTO, you are still violating that code.

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archaeo1

Feb-13-14 9:25 PM

The man isn't really a priest, this is satire.. A real priest would not forfeit his credibility by commenting on a subject in a forum like this. lets be real the guy is just playing with you...pardon the pun.

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FatherJohn

Feb-13-14 5:52 PM

I am not criticizing that group. My letter, in fact, commended their marketing. When it comes to the teachings of the Church on marriage, it is not political but rather a moral/social issue with ramifications.

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25or624

Feb-13-14 1:41 PM

Thus you have helped me counter Stonewall's original posit. Thank you.

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25or624

Feb-13-14 1:01 PM

The Human Rights Campaign? Wouldn't that be considered a politically active group? And, thus, would not criticism of a politically active group be political speech in itself? FatherJohn, you have thrust yourself into a politically charged environment, and while I'll admit that you play the game very well, you can't deny that you are a player. And, you present your arguments, through the affiliation beneath your signature, with the full weight of your church. And thus you thrust that institution into the political arena. You might not talk politics from from your pulpit inside the church, but you've moved your pulpit outside and made your parishes a politically active group.

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FatherJohn

Feb-13-14 11:30 AM

WarrenitegoneWest: If you have ever attended Mass where I am stationed, you would not have heard "politics from the pulpit" I preach the gospel and apply it to daily life whether social or moral. I work hard to respect my people even those who disagree with me. Can you say the same about someone you have not even met?

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FatherJohn

Feb-13-14 11:24 AM

Re: Fran Leto's letter. This marketing approach and the use of the term "normal" comes right out of the playbook of the Human Rights Campaign, the advocacy group of the LGBT community. You just don't get it.

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BrookP

Feb-13-14 10:47 AM

Yay, Playball!

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PlayBall

Feb-13-14 10:29 AM

BrookP ~ We agree!

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25or624

Feb-13-14 10:03 AM

But, you see, here's what I don't get. Not even the most liberal-Marxist-heathens among us is suggesting that Pastor Neff be forced to conduct or even acknowledge same-sex marriages. For all I care he can tack a note to the front door of his church saying gays need not apply, although his letters probably handle that task. My issue is that he believes that everyone should believe the way he does. And, please, don't show him anything on TV that indicates that others don't. I even respect YOUR beliefs, Stonewall. They are what they are. I just don't share them.

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25or624

Feb-13-14 9:53 AM

Of course its political. The whole reason gay rights are such a front and center issue right now and the reason the good friar feels compelled to write letters to the editor is the political and legal issues revolving around same-sex marriage.

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BrookP

Feb-13-14 9:16 AM

So you can tell someone is "normal" by the way they look. Please. Being gay IS normal. It may not be the statistical majority, but it IS normal, as in it occurs naturally in the natural world. Homosexuality is present in many species of the world. That is a fact. Please educate yourself.

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st0newa11

Feb-13-14 8:54 AM

Where did politics come into his letter? It spoke of a social issue.

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WarrenitegoneWest

Feb-13-14 8:42 AM

Fr. Neff is exhibits 1-1,000,000 in the argument for taxing the Church. The fact that he uses the pulpit to spout all of his political and other nonsense speaks volumes as to his disrespect for the people he is supposdly shepherding, not to mention the Church's 501(c)3 status. Sorry anyone has to be subject to his political agenda masquerading as priestly ministry.

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