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January 13, 2014

Pandora’s Box Dear editor: Several months ago I wrote a letter to the editor entitled “Marriage Equality. Be Careful What You Wish For....

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Heydrich

Jan-30-14 11:12 AM

Even though it received lukewarm reviews, I was still moved by the final line of the movie, "You know there are more Ilkmen out there, FIND THEM."

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MTOMTO

Jan-30-14 10:21 AM

My better half wrote a review. Said it was a "B" movie at best. So sad.

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Heydrich

Jan-30-14 10:00 AM

Can I purchase tickets online? I'm sure the lines at theaters will be painfully long.

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MTOMTO

Jan-30-14 9:56 AM

"Return of the Ilkmen" - Now playing in theatres near you.

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Heydrich

Jan-30-14 9:06 AM

Censorship and post deleting, these are my favorites! It's sadly amusing how writing an anti-abortion post is offensive, yet abortion itself is not.

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Heydrich

Jan-29-14 5:26 PM

"Ilkectomy for you"? You, MTOMTO, are cut from the same ilk as me, brother. I hope you are permitted a cheese sandwich after your ilkectomy. I will bring the gummy bears!

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MTOMTO

Jan-29-14 5:08 PM

I think they are collecting for an ilkectomy for you?

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Heydrich

Jan-29-14 9:25 AM

Since you know me so well, what exactly is "my ilk"? As far as you know, I have no religion or faith at all. Maybe I'm just a compassionate human being, maybe I'm a monster. You have no clue what my "ilk" is. I know one thing for sure, though, it's a sorry state when KILLING is viewed as a personal choice.

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MyOpinion

Jan-28-14 11:46 PM

Heydrich: All things you should not do, if that is your choice. But, I really don't think your ilk is qualified to set the standard for the rest of us.

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MyOpinion

Jan-28-14 8:40 AM

What makes it anyone's business what two consenting adults do in private? No one else is affected. Who's business is it other than the woman's whether or not she would choose to abort? Why can a Catholic organization decide their employees can't get birth control even if they are not Catholic? Why can't person's conduct business on Sundays. Why is it liquor is not sold on Sunday? Why is hunting prohibited on Sunday? Oh, I know! It's religious. It will offend God. The busy bodies need to force their views on everyone. These are examples of people voting their beliefs on others. Sunday is meaningless to Jews, and nonbelievers. Why can we not live our lives except to appease people that believe in fairy tales? It is none of the Christians business what I do as long as I'm not hurting someone else. Stop pushing your religion on others.

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Rancor

Jan-25-14 12:09 AM

Tell me where I said you should not be able to vote from whom you want. I never said that.

You say I sound like a politician? Yet you are the ones taking what I am saying and twisting it to sound like something its not.

What I said was that by voting the way you do, you are attempting to force your morals on other people. I never said anything about you not being allowed to vote how you want or taking away your right to vote how you want.

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Backwoods

Jan-24-14 8:04 PM

Rancor - your explanation of your 4:03 post sounds like you are a politician(of either party).

"This is what I said, but this is what I meant."

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Rancor

Jan-24-14 12:23 AM

"Breaking the laws of nature" Really!? That's the best non-religious reason you can come up with?

The following are mammals that commonly engage in homosexual acts:

Dolphins, bison, apes, elephants, giraffes, monkeys, macaque, lions, polecats, sheep, hyena, and humans.

There are many more examples where it is uncommon but not unheard of.

Many birds, reptile, and even insects also have been known to do so. So, ya... would you like to find another excuse?

If you can come up with something reasonable and non-religious, I will be more than happy to listen.

As far as my 4:03 comment to Backwoods, you completely miss the point and if you choose to continue to interpret it incorrectly even after I have flat out said what was meant... then that is your problem.

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Heydrich

Jan-23-14 1:32 PM

A more important issue, I believe, is that many non-Christians place the full burden of a non-agreeable issue on religious grounds, when in fact many issues which are proclaimed as religious-only issues actually break the laws of nature regardless of one's faith or lack thereof. Hence, those issues can be offensive to Christians and non-Christians alike, so the biblical aspect of these arguments must not be blamed alone. I guarantee you there are millions of non-Christians worldwide who are offended by homosexuality on the grounds of breaking the laws of nature, with no roots in biblical writings whatsoever.

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Heydrich

Jan-23-14 1:20 PM

Rancor, please see Rancor 4:03 am, "The problem, Backwoods, is that from our perspective you ARE trying to force your beliefs onto people by actively voting...". It certainly sounds like you are saying Backwoods cannot vote for anyone who has a different set of ideals than you.

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Rancor

Jan-23-14 8:17 AM

Let me be absolutely clear. I never said that I think that Backwoods should not be allowed to vote for who he wants. So stop playing the victim here.

What I said is two fold:

1. By allowing SSM, noone is infringing on his rights. 2. By voting for politicians that intend to force their morals on the LGBT community, he is effectively attempting to force his beliefs on others.

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Backwoods

Jan-23-14 8:03 AM

MO - you say,"Heydrich, one gets to vote the way they want; however, the wall of separation is real." Please show me where it is written that I should not vote for the candidate that best reflects my value system.

I never thought that in my life time I would see so many people in this country endorsing the loss of one's rights. But many on both sides of the aisle are.

Whether you want to believe it or not, one day soon God is going to bring this nation down to our knees.

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MyOpinion

Jan-22-14 10:59 PM

Heydrich, one gets to vote the way they want; however, the wall of separation is real. Voting to encroach on another's religion by promoting yours is wrong. The wall of separation has withstood the test of the Supreme Court many times over. The overt proselytizing by Christians to monopolize the government with their beliefs is no different than the Muslims trying to convert the world to Islam. As yet, here in the USA, the Christians are not killing people to promote their religion as they have in the past in many places in the world. The framers of the Constitution were Christian, but they were smart enough to realize mixing religion with gov't is a huge mistake. They were and still are correct.

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Heydrich

Jan-22-14 8:28 AM

Rancor, you obviously attempting to "infringe" on Backwoods' RIGHT to vote as he pleases. Are you familiar with the United States? Are you familiar that the right to vote as one pleases is one of the cornerstones of this once-great country?

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Rancor

Jan-22-14 1:07 AM

Backwoods,noone is forcing you to hide your christianity. You are not afraid (nor should you be) to proclaim your christianity. YOUR RIGHTS ARE NOT BEING INFRINGED UPON. That is the difference LGBT rights and you.

Heydrich by supporting the effort to infringe on the rights of others, yes, most assuredly he is attempting to force his beliefs on others.

I am happily married, but, how am I (or any of us) to enjoy that freedom when citizens in our own country are not afforded the same freedoms? How is that Just? How can that be the American way?

Go ahead, call it asinine and ask me to rethink it. The insult hurts me far less than the idea that you feel that other Americans happiness is an infringement on your rights.

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Heydrich

Jan-21-14 2:26 PM

Rancor, finding fault with Backwoods voting record and claiming he is forcing his beliefs upon you through his voting choices is one of the most asinine posts I have ever read. You might want to rethink that one.

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Backwoods

Jan-21-14 9:33 AM

Yep Rancor your saying I can have free of choice as long as I agree with you.

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Backwoods

Jan-21-14 9:29 AM

Yep Rancor, "and the pot said to the kettle…….."

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Rancor

Jan-21-14 4:03 AM

The problem, Backwoods, is that from our perspective you ARE trying to force you beliefs on people by actively voting for politicians who are against ssm laws and speaking in favor of laws that discriminate against ssm.

THAT is what the whole conversation is about.

I am AOK with you being a christian. If it works for you then I am truly happy for you. But, please try to keep religion out of government. Not only for our good, but for the good of everyone.

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MyOpinion

Jan-18-14 8:17 AM

There are no gods, no devils, no angels, no heaven or hell. There is only our natural world. Religion is but myth and superstition that hardens hearts and enslaves minds.

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