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Our opinion: The never-ending story

July 31, 2013

We thought we detected a note of frustration from Warren County School Board member Jack Werner during Monday night’s installment of “What Do We Do About Class Rank?”, the board’s long-running......

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Brazil

Jul-31-13 10:08 AM

Definitely a summa****laude editorial. It was both mind boggling and sad to read the Times Observer account of this issue. My thoughts were exactly the same as this editorial, mainly, why can't you use the Latin system and still provide colleges, and, each student upon request, a confidential copy of their class rank. I sometimes wonder the amount of communication these Board members have with students. Most students find the class rank issue a joke. It is pretty well observed by students that kids can be taking the same class from two different teachers and their experiences be like being on different planets. One teacher is rigorous and tough while the other masks their teaching incompetence by offering boatloads of "extra credit". Which calls to mind where exactly are the principals and other appropriate administrators when these situations occur but that is a question for another day.

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Brazil

Jul-31-13 10:09 AM

And please, trying to equate "most improved volleyball player" to academic awards is the nail in the coffin on how bad this School board has become.

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ManONFire5

Jul-31-13 11:30 AM

As a former student who was affected by the district's class ranking policy, I was more determined to succeed academically because of the potential to be recognized as one of the top three students in my class. What is the harm in rewarding those select students for their long four years of hard work? By taking the most challenging classes, every person has a fair shot at attaining one of the top 3 spots. For almost all advanced classes there is only 1 teacher, so the argument of fairness here is ridiculous.If you end up losing by a decimal point to someone else,*****it up; life's tough and is only going to get harder. By giving all high acheivers the exact same recognition, what incentive is there for students to be the best they can be? Sounds like socialism to me. If the school board wants to solve this problem, try asking students who finished in the top 5 percent of their class how class rank influenced their academic progress throughout high school.

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ProudCountyResident

Jul-31-13 12:12 PM

When I graduated there were 5 of us vying for the top spot in the class. In the end, one that did not take as many advanced classes as the rest of us got third. There was still a competition among us to get to these spots. Why can't there be class rank as well as latin system? Why only one way or the other?

When I went to college, there were several scholarships for Valedictorians, but none for Suma****Laude. There were scholarships for high GPA, but none for latin honors.

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Brazil

Jul-31-13 1:16 PM

I think I pointed out that class rank could still be done although I don't know if I believe the scholarship story and if so what a ridiculous qualification. Let me see I'll give a scholarship to person A because they are valedictorian of Tidioute Charter School (20 graduates or so) or for that matter WAHS (160 graduates or so)but Person B who graduated 2nd from Bethel Park (graduating class 400+) isn't eligible. If you need everyone in the world to know your class rank go buy a t-shirt and have "I'm number 1 and your not" silk screened on it. You can wear to your class reunions. I had a pretty good set of SAT scores and grades and the only people I cared that knew about it were those colleges that I was applying for admission and a couple scholarship committees.

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graduate

Aug-01-13 1:28 PM

Well said, ManONFire. What is the harm, indeed, in recognizing the top 3 students in a graduating class. Good choices and hard work should be recognized. I also agree that academic progress is a constant incentive to certain students in our schools. Good for them.

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ManONFire5

Aug-01-13 3:04 PM

Brazil, if we have class ranking for students applying to college, people are going to find out who's at the top anyway. If that valedictorian is arrogant enough to wear a silk-screened shirt well dammit he or she has that right. It's no different than athletes wearing their league champs apparel. I understand that you didnt't care about being recognized as one of the top students, but many others see it as an accomplishment they can be proud of. Dartmouth College still lists their valedictorians and salutatorians every year. If it's good enough for an Ivy League school, I don't see a reason to remove this tradition from Warren County schools.

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25or624

Aug-02-13 8:55 AM

I would be much more impressed with a t-shirt displaying a high SAT score, rather than one showing standing in a small statistical sample. The SAT is a level playing field; variations from school to school and class to class that are inherent in class ranking are not. Dartmouth's parade of its Valedictorians is a PR ploy to further impress those already in awe over its Ivy League label.

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