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Dangerous drivers

June 10, 2013

Dear editor: I am very irritated to say the least. I have lived on Pennsylvania Avenue for 9 years now. And the lack of respect to residents in this area has gotten worse over the years....

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Kelly14

Jun-10-13 2:30 AM

I totally agree with the writer. However, I don't think they are teaching them how to drive recklessly. If anything it's teaching them his not to drive like a total idiot. As long as you keep reiterating to them the consequences of such driving and behavior behind the wheel they are learning a good lesson. That being said, I agree the police need to crack down on them. Have you asked the manager in Country Fair to ask them to stop loitering there? If so and your pleas with them have been in vain, a call to corporate headquarters may help. Just a suggestion.

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writer10

Jun-10-13 2:31 AM

I have seen this happen there, sad thing is, they aren't even teens doing it, but young adults in their 20's.

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saveourschools

Jun-10-13 7:23 AM

The funny part is I have seen (on social media) the teen kids that are still in high school make fun of these young graduated adults for hanging out there.

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outoftownobserver

Jun-10-13 8:57 AM

They shouldn't be teaching your children anything, that's your job as a parent! If your children are still young enough that they are not out without you, why do you have them out at 9pm if this group of drivers makes your fear for their safety?

"The cops do nothing about this." Have you ever called them? If you have and they still aren't doing anything to meet your level of satisfaction, did you ever stop to think that maybe the behavior of these individuals though dumb and a nuisance, might not be illegal?

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MTOMTO

Jun-10-13 10:04 AM

It's called unsafe starting.

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Jimmy1

Jun-10-13 12:14 PM

It has become a hang out!

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MTOMTO

Jun-10-13 1:37 PM

Unsafe starting is one of the offenses that the police can charge you with for intentionally spinning your tires when a driver starts from a stopped position. At least that's what I have been told.

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justobserving

Jun-10-13 2:43 PM

Your close to right MTO. 38yrs ago I got a ticket from Warrens finest and it was called "Excessive Acceleration of a motor vehicle" It was a $50 dollar fine back then!!!

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MTOMTO

Jun-10-13 3:03 PM

justobserving, I actually found both. It seems the difference is if the infraction occurs from being stopped or already under motion.

An unsafe start from a parked, stopped, or standing position occurs when a motorist burns out from a complete stop, screeches their tires from a stopped position, performs donuts in a parking lot, accelerates in speed too quickly but is not necessarily speeding or pulls out from a parking spot without checking for oncoming traffic.

Unsafe starting can also apply to an operator pulling out in front of oncomming traffic and traveling too slowly.....not like that EVER happens around here.

Win-win for us, eh?

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Heydrich

Jun-10-13 4:01 PM

Win-win indeed. Great research, MTOMTO!

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Heydrich

Jun-10-13 4:32 PM

BuckFever, this coming from the guy who thinks the city police still use a stopwatch and painted lines. Get with the times, Bucky.

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MTOMTO

Jun-10-13 4:33 PM

HEYDRICH! It's been a while. I was starting to become concerned about a possible bad gummy bear - milk reaction.

Buck, then why was a person that I know required to take a PA license retest for unsafe starting violatins that put them over the point limit?

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Heydrich

Jun-10-13 4:35 PM

MTOMTO, I'm back! Sorry to everyone else. lol

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MTOMTO

Jun-10-13 4:39 PM

"this coming from the guy who thinks the city police still use a stopwatch and painted lines."

One Mississippi, two Mississippi, three Mississippi......

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MTOMTO

Jun-10-13 4:41 PM

I'm sorry to inform you, Sir, but you have exceeded the five Mississippi minimum, license, registration, and proof of insurance, please.

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garypayton

Jun-10-13 7:42 PM

Loud pipes save lives.

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Kelly14

Jun-12-13 1:15 AM

****. You actually took the time to call the police just to try to prove someone wrong? Wow. Wish I had that much time on my hands to spend my day trying to prove people wrong. Who flipping cares what they call the law or how it's worded. Either way, they are driving in an inappropriate manner. Good grief.

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MTOMTO

Jun-12-13 9:54 AM

Unsafe Starting is one action under the "Careless Driving / Wreckless Driving" umbrella. When you get a ticket, they have to describe what specific action you did to have violated the general ordinance. Could you imagine the ambiguity if you were only cited for such a general issue as "Careless Driving"? Sheesh.

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tommyboy

Jun-12-13 11:34 AM

Does it really matter what it is called? Spinning tires, Excessive display of speed, Improper start, it doesn't matter it is still a loss of traction making it illegal in most states i know of. There are many places up and down PA avenue where people feel the need to drive like morons and it's not just kids. Two nights ago 2 people left one of the bars on motorcycles and must have been doing between 50-65 MPH when they whipped past my street. They weren't young kids on crotch rockets either they were grown men on Harley's.

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MTOMTO

Jun-13-13 9:46 AM

Life is too short to be in a hurry, or call names.

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Kelly14

Jun-14-13 6:11 AM

****. Thanks for proving my point exactly.

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