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State of the Union

May 31, 2013

Dear editor: I wanted to comment on the state of the country in connection with some of the issues presently taking plac....

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reasonrules

May-31-13 5:40 AM

Your letter is so full of untruths and hog wash. I will comment on the last paragraph. No one is trying to take away your religious beliefs on god or what ever you have faith in. The rleigious factions of this country are jamming their beliefs down our throats, trying to force our children to prayer in school, public displays of religious nature such as the fictional Ten Commandments. Keep your eligious beliefs in your home and church and you will not have a problem.

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MTOMTO

May-31-13 8:19 AM

The writer never insinuated that they were trying to infringe on their religious beliefs. They only cited two such leaders who were targeted for additional scruitiny by the IRS.

As to hogwash. What proof do you have about the IRS targeting, AG press surveillance, and the Benghazi events and statements are untruths? The administration could surely use your assistance on those, IMHO.

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Pirate

May-31-13 8:27 AM

I will only say this. We have to here three more years of crying from these people.Please! He won. GET OVER IT!

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MTOMTO

May-31-13 8:54 AM

"He won. GET OVER IT!"

And that gives the administration a blank check for ethical impropriety?

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st0newa11

May-31-13 9:23 AM

Let me paraphrase here: I will only say this. We've had almost 237 years of freedom, until a socialist, spoon-fed, entitlement sucking, majority of blind voters elected to receive a "fundamental change" to end the greatest nation in history. Please! He won. GET OVER IT! NOW, would he have won if the electorate had know of the "squash-the-conservatives" and "hide the terrorism" shenanigans perpetrated during his first term? Would he?? He's no leader. He truly hates America and wants her destroyed. Shoot back at me now, but remember YOUR stance in a few years when you're wondering what the heck happened.

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st0newa11

May-31-13 9:25 AM

TCAngel, re your 8:29 AM post: thanks for finally coming around.

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st0newa11

May-31-13 9:29 AM

Speaking of atheists, I heard on the radio the other day, that they are suing the Boy Scouts for entry into their club WITHOUT taking the pledge to honor God. I saw this coming when the Scouts caved to political pressure and let "confused" boys in. What's next? It is a PRIVATE CLUB and nobody has any right to tell them who can enter and who can't, what values to embrace and which to reject. They're all DONE now. They caved. I'll never buy popcorn from them or support them again.

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BrookP

May-31-13 10:51 AM

"If there were no God, there would be no Atheists!" - TCAngel, your statement has absolutely no logic to it. Atheists have a LACK of, or no, belief in a higher being. A higher being does not have to exist for that to occur.

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BrookP

May-31-13 11:02 AM

I assume that the writer wrote an equally challenging letter about the Bush administration. As I recall, we had unconstitutional wire taps and torture, and lets not forget, using the writer's own phrase, the wars "based on one fabrication after another" that cost the taxpayers monster deficits that our children will have to pay back.

And, as seems to be common, lately, the writer assumes that his god (as opposed to the other 100 gods around the world) can solve the world's problems.

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Sisyphus

May-31-13 11:11 AM

The dialogue resulting from this letter may well indicate how we got into this mess. The writer's letter, titled "State of the Union" decried the numerous "scandals" plaguing the country and the current administration. Yet rather than address the legitimate points raised by the author, the administration's advocates focus on an issue not raised in the letter -- religion -- or dismiss the real issues by asserting they are "hog wash" or that the writer is simply bitter that his candidate wasn't elected. It appears that this administration has only three responses to these questions: (1) the fault lies with Bush or Republican Congressmen; (2) I didn't know anything; or (3) it is shameful for you to even ask such a question. Of course, a Louisiana state Senator now tells us that any opposition to Obamacare is simply racist. We will make no progress until the debate focuses on the issues and until those responsible are held accountable.

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BrookP

May-31-13 11:11 AM

Stonewall, how sad that you won't continue to support our local boys in their scouting endeavors. I've been involved in a troop. In some troops, the boys receive credit for all the profit (scout bucks) from their sales. This is the only way that some of them can afford to go to summer scout camp, regional events, or jamboree, etc.

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Sisyphus

May-31-13 11:17 AM

While I was drafting my comment, BrookP demonstrated my concerns in an admirable fashion. Let's ignore the existing scandals and the deficit that has grown to approximately $17 Trillion during this President's watch and let's blame everything on Bush (using very tired and unconvincing arguments) and let's blame the writer's belief in his own God for the problems of the country and the world.

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BrookP

May-31-13 11:20 AM

It's always interesting to see how one side or the other only sees what they want to see, but then doesn't apply those same standards to their own side.

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MTOMTO

May-31-13 11:26 AM

Sisyphus, well said. Kudos.

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Brazil

May-31-13 12:28 PM

As was eloquently stated in a recent national column when a group people declare everything to be an outrage as they have with the Obama administration then the word loses value and most people tune out. So then when you have something that may rise to the level of outrage like the IRS situation no one really pays attention. The letter is just a partisan hack attack. The writer wants one to believe that everything was heavenly in the George Bush era of false pretense wars that killed 4000 plus Americans, 100 billion a year unfunded mandates for Medicare prescription drugs, 12 billion in missing Iraq reconstruction money etc. etc. The only thing I got out of the article is that this gentleman has his TV channel selector welded to the Fox News station.

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Brazil

May-31-13 12:30 PM

And one more note on the IRS issue. Definitely wrong if certain groups were targeted and heads should roll for it but does anybody really believe that we should be subsidizing political action groups from either party, liberal or conservative? You really want a higher tax bill so Karl Rove and George Soros can avoid taxes by calling their political influence buying corporations not for profit. None of these groups should be tax exempt.

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MTOMTO

May-31-13 1:07 PM

Your up there on my list too, Roundup.

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MTOMTO

May-31-13 1:09 PM

Brazil, I agree with NOT subsidizing political action groups.

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Brazil

May-31-13 1:25 PM

Round Up - Regarding the Voice. I didn't even know what it was until I looked it up. You did though....... As Bob Dole said a few days ago, the Republican party needs to hang out a sign for the near future saying "Closed for Repairs". I, on the other hand, hope that folks such as yourself keep it up. You've lost the popular vote in 5 of the last 6 elections and you are helping to ensure "Hillary in 2016". Keep up the good work, Roundup!!

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BrookP

May-31-13 1:32 PM

Sisyphus, perhaps I could have said it better, but essentially I meant what Brazil said - the letter is a partisan hack attack. Also, apparently you don't read so well. The writer brought up religion, not me. I responded to it. I also did not blame the writer's belief for world problems. He suggested that his god could solve the problems.

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PlayBall

May-31-13 1:33 PM

Brazil: I'm DEFENDING you! (Believe it or not) Watch FOX and Friends at 6:00 AM and listen to them for an hour on politics and then go to GMA or TODAY show and cricket cricket. There's nothing there. You can't compare the two or three or so on. They are not going to demonize their #1 guy, no matter what.

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PlayBall

May-31-13 1:34 PM

Wait a minute! Hillary in 2016!! Cough cough gag gag. She will be 70 years old! And forget Joe Biden. No. No way. Hillary had her chance and the media gave it to Obama. She's toast!

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PlayBall

May-31-13 1:49 PM

I'm thinking Debbie Wasserman Shultz, Kristin Gillibrand, Andrew Cuomo (Gov Screamer), Dan Malloy, Cory Booker.

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Brazil

May-31-13 1:54 PM

oh yeah.....Fox and Friends 3 or 4 right wing ideologues teaming up on Bob Beckel. Yeah I'll get there right away. Round Up buddy, Fox was the one that kept telling everyone the polls were all wrong and skewed and that Romney was heading to victory. You believed them then too, didn't you...:)

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MTOMTO

May-31-13 1:57 PM

"the letter is a partisan hack attack."

It sounded more like a concerned citizen voicing their concerns and looking to a higher power for providence to me. As I alluded to earlier....Show me the proof that the IRS targeting, AG press surveillance, and the Benghazi events and statements are false.

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