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May 31, 2013

Dear editor: I wanted to comment on the state of the country in connection with some of the issues presently taking plac....

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garypayton

Jun-07-13 1:36 PM

Wow! This guy guy has his FOX facts down cold. Every talking point, every fear mongering "threat," and every answer to every "problem." He must be taking notes from the famous white board. I'ts-all-tied-together. Grab your guns and head for the bunker.

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Brazil

Jun-03-13 12:32 PM

MTOMTO - Better check the Senate and the House membership. Democrats controlled them the first 2 years of Clinton's first term. They switched after the election in 1994 to Republican control. The Health Care initiative was during those first two years and it was killed due to Democratic missteps and universal Republican opposition. Politically it was dead and nothing brought up by Clinton afterwards was going to get any traction with a Republican controlled Congress. Interestingly later on Bush took office and the Republicans did nothing but watch the uninsured population grow by millions. That was their health care plan - blind but purposeful neglect.

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MTOMTO

Jun-03-13 9:17 AM

He had both the Senate and House in his first term.

"The Clinton health plan attempt was in his first two years so he really didn't ignore it after all."

What did he do with it for the next six years? Well made a stab at it with Hillary, check that box and move along?

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Brazil

Jun-02-13 8:03 AM

Lifelong/MTOMOT - You need read this weeks news reports on California. What you are quoting is all the conjecture of how much the rates would be raised. If you read this weeks reports you will find they have come in considerably less than expected. Faux News will not be reporting that information.

Hillary did attempt to fix health care, it didn't work due to 100% Republican opposition and Congressional Democrats wish at the time to shoot themselves in the foot. Obama was more successful. It's not a perfect plan by far but at least it is an attempt. I find that better than the 20 recent years of Republican Presidential leadership where they buried their head in the sand while the amount of uninsured in this Country crept over 40 million. And lastly MTOMTO, The Clinton health plan attempt was in his first two years so he really didn't ignore it after all.

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BrookP

Jun-01-13 1:12 AM

After 5 years, I believe, you have to show that you have met the guidelines for activities, fund-raising, finances, etc. to acquire permanent exempt status.

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BrookP

Jun-01-13 1:09 AM

MTO, no, the organization with which I was affiliated was what you might think of as a standard type of non-profit, and even so the IRS was quite thorough in its information gathering to determine if we qualified. From the application for exempt status: "To be tax-exempt under section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code, an organization must be organized and operated exclusively for exempt purposes set forth in section 501(c)(3), and none of its earnings may inure to any private shareholder or individual. In addition, it may not be an action organization, i.e., it may not attempt to influence legislation as a substantial part of its activities and it may not participate in any campaign activity for or against political candidates." As you can see, conservative/liberal/or middle-of-the road, if the IRS gets wind of political or legislative activities, the organization must fail the application. If I remember right, the status is initially temporary. (continued)

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MTOMTO

May-31-13 4:33 PM

"I have been involved in filling out the application for charitable exemption for an organization to which I used to belong."

Were there any of the target key words in the name of the organization?

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MTOMTO

May-31-13 4:32 PM

"We need more information to know if this is one-sided, I think."

The whole thing came to public attention when IRS personel blew their whistles stating that it was policy to target these specific groups and individuals. How far up the ladder it goes is still being determined. Yet or President knew nothing about it until he saw it on the news?

And this agency will be the defacto enforcer of Obamacare? Sorry if that doesn't give me a warm and fuzzy.

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BrookP

May-31-13 4:24 PM

MTOMTO, I agree. The IRS must not play favorites, but they must protect the public from all non-charitable organizations gaining deductible contribution status. We don't know that they haven't been vigilant with the other side of the political spectrum. We just know that they have been extra hard on the one side. We need more information to know if this is one-sided, I think.

I have been involved in filling out the application for charitable exemption for an organization to which I used to belong. The form is long and the questions are grueling. We went back and forth with the IRS for months answering follow-up questions about our activities before approval. It's not an easy process.

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PlayBall

May-31-13 4:18 PM

Hillary's new book entitled: "What Difference Did I Make?" Um, none.

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PlayBall

May-31-13 3:31 PM

Max Baucus or how about our own Bob Casey, once he plucks that unibrow. Really Bob!

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Lifelongresident

May-31-13 3:07 PM

Not only that MTOMTO but remember Hillary was going to be in charge of fixing healthcare when Bill got elected. Remember that promise? Absolutely nothing got done by them after all the promises.

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Lifelongresident

May-31-13 3:05 PM

Brazil,

Please check this article on Forbe's it's claiming the comparison used to show Obamacare was lower cost was based on very flawed comparisons.

Search for this Forbe's article:

Rate Shock: In California, Obamacare To Increase Individual Health Insurance Premiums By 64-146%

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MTOMTO

May-31-13 3:03 PM

"About the IRS, it's their job to weed out political organizations"

I believe that "equally" is the missing concept here.

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MTOMTO

May-31-13 2:45 PM

"It's not perfect but the Republicans have ignored health care during Reagan, Bush and Bush."

I think that you forgot one in there...now who could that be? Oh, yea, Clinton with the Presidency and both House and Senate for his first four years.

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BrookP

May-31-13 2:38 PM

About the IRS, it's their job to weed out political organizations, or any other non-charitable group, trying to pull one over and get charitable status eligible for deductible contributions. I hope they are vigilant in watching for ANY political group trying this.

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MTOMTO

May-31-13 2:34 PM

"MTOMTO wake me up when you find the smoking gun."

That would be at about the same time our President accepts responsibility for actions (or inactions) that have taken place on his watch?

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MTOMTO

May-31-13 2:32 PM

The EPA was in there twice? I missed that.

Obamacare? The President Obama's landmark healthcare overhaul is projected to cost $1.76 trillion over a decade, reports the Congressional Budget Office, a hefty sum more than the $940 billion estimated when the healthcare legislation was signed into law.

Citing lower than estimated insurance premium prices in one state is a bit short sighted. Implementation and the growth of government will far offset this.

Gosnell? Guilty.

Could there be more such "clinics"? How long had he been operating that one?

Green energy scams? Solyndra.

EPA's radical agenda taking precedence over the property rights of American citizens? I never said that all of the writer's concerns were valid or reasonable, just that they were expressing THEIR concerns.

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Brazil

May-31-13 2:20 PM

Sisyphus

Benghazi - Much ado about nothing IRS - A concerning issue, no doubt, but I don't think any of these groups right or left should be tax exmept Reporters- A concerning issue, let's see how it plays out Obamacare - Completely for it. It's not perfect but the Republicans have ignored health care during Reagan, Bush and Bush. At least the Dem's have tried to do something. Its personally going to cost my businesses money but your looming cost theory doesn't hold water. Like we didn't have looming costs already. EPA - You don't want them? Then build house next to a fracking site and enjoy your life.

There I addressed all 5 issues raised in a partisan hack attack by someone who ignores the Bush Medicare drug mandate, a trillion dollars worth of war in Iraq, 4000 dead in Iraq while worrying about 4 dead in Libya.

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PlayBall

May-31-13 2:17 PM

Plus, Bob Beckle can hold his own. He's a better Democrat than Joe Scarborough is a Republican.

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Sisyphus

May-31-13 2:16 PM

By the way Brazil, I think the bigger issue with Benghazi was the administration's failure to respond to legitimate requests for more security prior to the attack on the consulate, and the outrageous lies and fabrications voiced by the President and his entourage after the attack in a clear effort to cover up the mistakes and to divert any criticism of the President just prior to the election. "I didn't know anything" gets pretty old very quickly when coming repeatedly from a president and vice president.

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Brazil

May-31-13 2:14 PM

MTOMTO wake me up when you find the smoking gun. The Republicans have claimed to have found it a dozen times since last Fall. Their bombastic pronoucements always are followed up with an empty gasp.

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Sisyphus

May-31-13 2:12 PM

BrookP and by extention, Brazil: I will refer back to my original post. The writer references 5 relevant political/economic issues that have absolutely nothing to do with the Bush administration (the IRS; Benghazi; the DOJ's and government's infringement on 1st Amendment rights; the looming cost of Obamacare and the over reaching of the EPA). Rather than debate those issues, you disregard this as a partisan hack attack. I don't care what party inhabits the Oval Office; I am concerned about these issues, particularly when the President tells college students to reject and ignore any suggestion that big government is a threat. "Ignore the man behind the curtain" said the Wizard of Oz.

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Brazil

May-31-13 2:10 PM

Oh yeah Fox and Friends. That 3 right wing ideologues all by themselves but once again that's the fair and balanced Fox way. And MTOMTO better read that letter again ---it also contains EPA, Obamacare, EPA, the Gosnell trial, etc. So I'll stick with my partisan hack attack. The sky is falling the sky is falling. Wait a minute the market is up from 6500 to 15400 and guess what the California insurance prices for Obamacare came in much lower than budgeted. That had to disappoint some people

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MTOMTO

May-31-13 2:08 PM

"If you took a bit of time to listen to the military you would have heard them say that a rescue mission was not tenable"

And the Embassy requests for additional security during the days leading up to the "spontaneous demonstration in reaction to a YouTube video" were certainly heavily considered too?

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