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Board may tighten transfer policy

Only two criteria in proposed policy

May 7, 2013

Transferring from one school in the Warren County School District to another is likely to become much more restrictive....

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Brazil

May-09-13 8:44 AM

It's not degrading to speak factually and state that the socio-economic conditions of some areas of the County are better then others. I'm pretty confident that the average family income of Bear Lake is lower than the average family income of Greenbriar Circle. I'm fine with paying tax dollars to level the field and afford equal opportunity and access. If that makes me a bad person then so be it.

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MTOMTO

May-09-13 8:35 AM

"Those kids are rarely involved in travel sports and the activity buses were a way for them to participate in an easier fashion. It was a bit of economic justice so I was fine with it."

Justice? Who decides what is fair? The road to **** is paved with good intentions.

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MTOMTO

May-09-13 8:32 AM

"Travel expenses as a percentage of income to them isn't exactly the same as those living in socio-economic areas like Bear Lake, Lottsville, Clarendon, etc."

"I have heard many Warrenites speak in degrading tones about people in the outlying district."

Hmmmmm.

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MTOMTO

May-09-13 8:30 AM

"just to clarify I do think the gifted program should be cut to the bare minimum. If I see another picture of kids baking apple pies and making quilts"

Gifted program? That was called Home Economics back when I went to school here. It was a mandatory class.

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Brazil

May-08-13 10:58 PM

SOS - I also think your comment about the transportation buses is a bit lacking in knowledge on participants in travel sports. Most of these kids come from Warren or the wealthy areas outside the City and most families involved are not exactly poor. Travel expenses as a percentage of income to them isn't exactly the same as those living in socio-economic areas like Bear Lake, Lottsville, Clarendon, etc. Those kids are rarely involved in travel sports and the activity buses were a way for them to participate in an easier fashion. It was a bit of economic justice so I was fine with it. My two older kids participated in softball and soccer and my youngest particpated in baseball so I'm pretty qualified to render an opinion as to the typical team make up

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Brazil

May-08-13 10:53 PM

just to clarify I do think the gifted program should be cut to the bare minimum. If I see another picture of kids baking apple pies and making quilts.......... Our program is far above the norm being offered at many other schools according to the information I have been able to glean.

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Brazil

May-08-13 10:51 PM

The sports budget is a mere pittance. A drop in the bucket. Anyone who uses the sports budget as a lever to balance the budget is being silly and is not the least bit serious about balancing the budget. Also SOS please eliminate Band, School Plays and all other activities not involving core curriculum and cut down the godawful gifted program to the bare minimum allowed by State law. You want your kids to go to a school like that be my guest. That isn't a a school experience in my book.My 3 kids would be pulled from this District and I would venture to guess they would not be alone. So tell me how do you square that proposed move with the kids of this County when EVERY other school district finds a way of supporting sports but our district. There is not one school district that I know of and certainly not one within District 10 that has eliminated sports, nor band, nor school musicals.

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saveourschools

May-08-13 1:26 PM

I have to disagree Brazil. 50,000$ is what is budgeted for the new band uniforms. They are replaced by school on a rotation. While our sports budget isn't what it use to be, it is still a chunk of money that could be paying for tutoring, text books, teachers, you know...direct education expenses. Our district quit paying for the "activities" bus a couple years ago. It was shocking to the central attendance area and many parents who also drive kids to travel sports clubs out of town on a weekly basis, that a bus was being provided for kids to come home from sports practices. Those type of things are extra curricular and therefore not necessarily the schools responsibility to pay the full bill as the number one priority of the district is to educate. There will not be busing for practices of Co-ops so therefore no added cost.

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Brazil

May-08-13 9:39 AM

The Sports budget is less than 1% of the overall budget. Bands way less than that. Coop's will save virtually next to nothing because the only thing the District really covers is insurance, transportation and coaching salaries. What they gain in a lesser amount of games they'll incur in 5 times a week transportation to practices. Anyone thinking sport's coops will save any real money is whistling in the wind.

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saveourschools

May-07-13 11:28 PM

Mary, it literally would take an act of legislation to break up the district. It won't happen. As far as money following the student, that may work if we were getting our funding on a per student basis but because of our declined enrollment we get the flat rate of hold harmless. I'm betting that some day we will see consolidation. Eventually we will have too but the buildings that will see three most utilization will be Ike, Sheffield, WAEC, and Beaty. Last committee meetings our board even talked about the need to consolidate into Co-ops, the sports teams and bands. When we are trying to duplicate things into 4 and the needs of the students can't be met, we have a problem. We would see a better savings if we took administration by the horns and made the correct cuts but when we lose our hold harmless funding, and a eventually will, some very unpopular decisions will have to be made.

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teacher

May-07-13 10:40 PM

So parent transfer requests will be denied, but they are going to force the Emotional Support students and Autistic students to transfer to Youngsville. Maybe it's a plan to keep the regular ed kids in Youngsville from trying to leave when the new groups arrive next year.

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MaryBennett

May-07-13 5:21 PM

How would consolidating to one school solve the problem? Consolidation would not actually save as much money as you think (and frankly you would lose the battle and the district would break up).

Correct me if I am wrong but this is a county school district? We put all of our money together and we fund all of the schools? So my question is why is it so hard for the money to follow the student from school to school?

If there were four separate school districts and everyone was transferring I could see the problem because there would be no shared money. So what is the problem and why are we wasting our time and possibly money on this issue?

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saveourschools

May-07-13 2:55 PM

Brazil, sarcasm is contagious isn't it? Imagine, they paid those bonuses, gave raises, hired new staff positions, rented the theater, let an ex superintendent walk with out recouping anything from a broken contract and I'm positive that I can find at minimum of a dozen more items of waste, all while KNOWING we were in the red and had a deficit that was going to eventually need to be tackled.

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Brazil

May-07-13 1:14 PM

Save Our Schools - You have to remember everything our Board President, Board, and Administration do is in the best interests of the children. Like $100,000 in bonuses in a School District crying poor. Those bonuses were all about the kids. $100,000 to save a course of study, replace dilapidated textbooks, maintain a couple of teaching positions - those wouldn't have benefited the kids nearly as much as $10,000 a month in bonuses for overworked administrative staff. Gee-Now was I being sarcastic?

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saveourschools

May-07-13 12:56 PM

Which policy Brazil? The current one that should be currently followed or the new one that is being developed because administration is denying based on its own ideas. Yes...I'm being sarcastic...this district has no idea what it means to actually follow a policy unless it serves a personal purpose.

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Brazil

May-07-13 12:23 PM

When will the Board announce who will defend this policy when the inevitable law suit occurs?

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saveourschools

May-07-13 12:03 PM

If anyone has received denial of transfer letters for next school year, appeal them. The changes to policy have not been approved yet. Administration is solely in the works of developing the policy change. If your transfer request is based on current policy then fight for the transfer.

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Brazil

May-07-13 9:57 AM

Several other reasons, such as to take a course in a prescribed course of study, transfer for disciplinary, physical or psychological concerns, or a child "whose parent or guardian shows an extreme hardship in providing child care" would no longer be permissible under this proposal.

OK - So these silly reasons are all going to be eliminated but we are still going to allow rich parents in the upscale Russell developments to move their kids to Beaty after going to grade school in the Northern Area.

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25or624

May-07-13 9:49 AM

You're not going to get a disagree from me, Pedro.

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dubedit

May-07-13 9:40 AM

In most instances, transferring because of bullying and psychological issues does NOT educate. Education means learning to deal with problems, not running away.

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PedroJoe

May-07-13 8:44 AM

Consolidating to one semi-large high school in the county would solve this problem.

(Watch the "disagrees" go wild because I typed the "C" word)

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saveourschools

May-07-13 6:39 AM

There are kids who have transferred for issues of bullying and psychological issues....are theses kids going to be sent back to their home school? There are more things to consider...

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