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Weapons control

April 1, 2013

Dear Editor, Recently there was a letter in the WTO entitled weapons control. For now let’s not “leave the second amendment out of it”....

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colorado

Apr-01-13 7:55 AM

It's not weapons control, it's not gun control, it's not safety----it's people control.

Mayor Bloomberg wants to control what you eat, what you drink, force mothers to breast feed, control how food is packaged and now he is spending 12 million dollars on ads to control what firearms you can use for sport or protection. Even many of his fellow liberals say he is going too far with his attempts to control the citizens.

Every mass murderer has been ruled as having serious mental problems. Most other shootings involve inter city gangs fighting over turf or control of the drug trade. Until those two issues are addressed everything else is for show or to further control over the citizens and has nothing to do with safety.

Even the proposed background checks have mandatory permanent record keeping of the checks rather than being destroyed after the check is complete. That way they know where to get the guns when they decide the time is right.

IT'S ALL ABOUT PEOPLE CONTROL.

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guitbanger

Apr-01-13 8:30 AM

I haven't hunted in years, so laws may have changed. I recall there being game laws that allowed the use of only certain guns for particular game and how many rounds were allowed to be put in that gun. If this is still the case, where are the protesters to get that changed? While I love animals and wildlife, I personally value human life higher.

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Jimmy1

Apr-01-13 9:21 AM

Amen brother to the letter writer! Well said! I don't own any of these guns, but sure makes me want to go out and buy one! Just because! These shooting happen in gun free zones! Why? Well it doesn't take a genious to figure that one out! The bad guys are going to still have guns! I hope hiding under your bed saves your live when your house is broke into at 3:00 am. Because it is going to take at least 20 mins for the police to get there! A lot can happen in that 20 mins. Remember Kathy Sweeny in tidiout just a few months ago. I bet if she had a gun she would be with us today and we wouldn't be supporting a crook and killer in jail! Wake up America before it is too late!

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archaeo1

Apr-01-13 2:42 PM

98% of the pop.should be allowed an unregitered assult rifle..Not A wise idea .Its actually foolish and yes I have a conceal permit but dont think all guns are for all UNTRAINED UNREGISTERED people. Take a look around yikes!

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garypayton

Apr-01-13 3:25 PM

I don't think furious is a trait I'm looking for in a responsible gun owner. Maybe anger management should be required to own an assault weapon.

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BrookP

Apr-01-13 4:11 PM

Jimmy1, Kathy Sweeny would still be gone. Having a gun rarely helps in a surprise attack. You're gone before you get a chance to grab your gun. I support mandatory background checks for any weapon transaction, even one where a friend sells a gun to another friend. It won't totally fix the problem, but it will help some. I support a ban on assault weapons, just like I support a ban on the general public owning grenade launchers or surface to air missiles. It won't eliminate the risk, but it will lower the risk that a bad person gets ahold of one. Yes, bad people already have some, but as we catch them and trash the ones they have, the overall numbers keep going down because we aren't allowing more to hit the streets.

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MTOMTO

Apr-01-13 4:49 PM

Enforce the laws on the books already and stop punishing the innocent. Existing background checks identified how many fraudulently illegal applications and how many were prosecuted?

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Jimmy1

Apr-01-13 5:12 PM

I worked with Kathy at one time, and I know if she would have been packing she would be here today and he would be dead. She would not have thought twice. She had time to call her friend she sure as heck had time to use a gun!

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guessagain

Apr-01-13 6:54 PM

BrookP, if you really believe that by banning certain weapons, mean that people can't get them, you live in a better world then I do. It would be just like prohibition, It didn't stop people from making, selling and drinking alcohol. It just made the majority of the population criminals.

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colorado

Apr-01-13 6:56 PM

The first thing to do is know what you are talking about. These ARE NOT assault rifles. They are semi auto firearms with some of the same cosmetic features of the military rifles.

Semi auto rifles have been used by civilians for over a hundred years. Lewis and Clark had a semi auto firearm on their expedition in 1804 capable of firing 20 rounds in under a minute.

Firearms are used by civilians to protect themselves dozens of times in the US every day. The mainstream media chooses not to report them because it runs counter to the image they are trying to promote.

74,000 people were caught lying on the existing background checks in one year which is a felony. 19 were successfully prosecuted. Lets try enforcing current laws before tying up the feds with any more paperwork.

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writer10

Apr-01-13 7:12 PM

I like when people say guns have no use. I usually follow with, I guess that would be a good reason to outlaw, sports cars, big screen tvs, large houses and so on. Just because it doesn't have a practical use doesn't mean that people don't want it. People buy them because they like to shoot and it makes them smile. why take it away from them, just because you don't like it. Look at what our schools are doing, can't even bring a toy gun that blows bubble to school. Why, because somebody doesn't like it. It has gotten out of hand how a certain segment of the populations is trying to force their ideals onto others through political means.

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cam21cw

Apr-02-13 2:36 AM

"I bet more children die from car accidents than guns. Do we ban cars? Nope." In PA about the same amount of people die from guns as vehicles. Some states more die from guns.

I do agree with the author about family reporting mental instability, but this doesn't always work. A lot of recent shooters were seeing mental health professionals and they still were out on the street to commit their crimes.

I also agree with him about not glorifying the killer. The media should refuse to release the names of these people. It might save a life as I'm sure part of the motive for some is for glory.

I disagree on his gun control stance. Just take a look at other countries man, they don't have the guns we do, they don't have the deaths we do. It's that simple. By the way, Having a gun in your home significantly increases your risk of death — and that of your spouse and children. And it doesn’t matter how the guns are stored or what type or how many guns you own.

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st0newa11

Apr-02-13 11:14 AM

Brad, just don't drink too much caffeine, keep your sight picture in line and you should be ok.

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BrookP

Apr-02-13 12:46 PM

guessagain, you didn't read what I wrote. I said that over time, we would reduce the assault weapons available on the streets as we catch criminals and destroy their weapons, while not permitting new legal ones to hit the streets. I never said it would solve the problem. It will help.

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MTOMTO

Apr-02-13 1:37 PM

Here's the latest. They are now starting a push to force gun owners to buy liability insurance or face a possible $10,000 fine. With the president demonizing the insurance companies, maybe he should legislate "Obama-gun-care"?

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guessagain

Apr-02-13 2:10 PM

The key word is "legal". How many ilegal guns are smuggled into this country that are made in other countries.

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Kows666

Apr-02-13 9:51 PM

Hi. I am the one who wrote the letter. Do you wanna hear something stupid that the Wal-Mart in Jamestown has in place for buying ammo? You cannot buy handgun ammo UNLESS you show a conceal carry permit. Do they realize how stupid that is? I wanted ammo for a handgun that will never leave my property. Essentially if I get to the bottom of my driveway with it, it becomes illegal (if loaded). Now to buy ammo for it, Wal-Mart is forcing me and all other handgun owners to get a piece of paper allowing me to walk down the street with it. Then it would be legal for me to have the loaded gun on me right up to the school zone. How backwards is that?!?! Everyone wakes fun of the Wal-Mart greeters. They are ALL "Wal-mart greeters".

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Kows666

Apr-02-13 10:02 PM

Hey Garypayton, "I don't think furious is a trait I'm looking for in a responsible gun owner. Maybe anger management should be required to own an assault weapon." Nice comment. Here's the skinny for you. I have owned my AK-47 since '94. I do in fact have quite a temper. NEVER have I came close to looking to a gun to solve my problems. I have also never resorted to physical violence unless REALLY provoked. My guns are a hobby. That's it. I can see the beauty in them much like people see beauty in a car or an antique. The only difference is a 19th century armoire is going to hard to wield against an intruder. Something for you to chew on. If an invading force comes over my hill, you are going to be glad that "angry people" like me have assault rifles and a generous love of our country.

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Kows666

Apr-02-13 10:06 PM

brookp, You support the assault rifle ban huh? You think that will solve everything. I remember the DC Sniper. Do you? He had the Washington DC area hostage with deer rifles. Where are you going to draw the line? Last one, promise.

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colorado

Apr-03-13 7:41 AM

Kows666----Walmart in Warren Pa has a sign out stating they won't even sell you a firearm if you are from New York. Keep voting for those libs.

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garypayton

Apr-03-13 12:19 PM

try to keep cool. I know that finger is itchy. Waiting for intruders is your hobby? Ever heard of fishing? Peace.

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archaeo1

Apr-03-13 6:17 PM

Gary, The world gets wierder and wierder. Kow -now belives people can control thier tempers.What percentage of the time does that not happen?Register Semi's and hand guns have training mandatory ,and lets all move on to the next topic. I thought the rights line was for the states to set thier own laws..Now they dont like the fact that N.Y.has thier own laws..And didnt those darn liberals in n.y start allowing rifles for hunting in almost all of N.Y. state now. Hows the NRA doing with their newly announced gun training and education annitiative.oh wait that wasnt the NRA it was the national gun owners assoc. it was the NRA that said people could own shoulder held weapons {propelled granades surface to air]?I guess we woulnt want to infringe on the 2nd amemdment.April 13 is comin"Lets go shoot us some fish"!

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MTOMTO

Apr-04-13 9:17 AM

I'm all for universal background checks, but not a national gun registry. It's none of their business what guns I own as long as they are purchased legally. What about the 70+ thousand people that lied on their background check applications and were not prosecuted? Let's start by enforcing the laws on the books already.

It's kinda like the non-enforcement of our existing immigration laws. Now we need more laws to deal with the illegals because the laws have not been enforced. It's a vicious circle, spiraling downward, and temporary status is not an answer.

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Kows666

Apr-06-13 6:52 AM

I am one of the few gun owners that has no problem with a national gun registry. I have nothing to hide. I don't plan on doing anything illegal. I'll even go a step further. I think all guns should have to have a sample sent to a ballistics lab to be put into a national registry. Therefore if someone commits a crime with a 7.62x39 round, the police can check the ballistics against all other guns that utilize a 7.62x39 round. I am also all for training for gun owners. I believe you should first qualify for sportsman training. You could then buy any sportsman gun. Next would be handgun and then assault rifle. That should appease the "liberals". If you pass the classes without any hiccups, then you should be able to buy any and all guns that you wish from that class. That should appease the "conservatives. Basically, no one is ever going to be happy.

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Kows666

Apr-06-13 7:07 AM

Also, about the comment about guns increasing the odds of someone in my house being killed by one of them. True, I cannot dispute that. By having electricity in your home it increases your chances of being electrocuted. Running water increases your chances of drowning. Gas increases your chances of house fire. Driving increases your chances of dying in a car accident....etc. To possess certain things in life we accept a certain amount of danger. My guns are NEVER stored loaded. The ammunition is NEVER stored in the same room. My AK-47 is the only gun that has ammo at the ready. Without being shown how to make the weapon ready, the average person could not get it to fire. I think my family and my guns will be able to cohabitate.

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