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March 25, 2013

Dear editor: I am writing this letter in response to a letter published in today’s WTO (Wednesday March 20, 2013) Readers Forum regarding Student Council. I am a retired educator....

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writer10

Mar-25-13 2:12 AM

Explanation doesn't matter, it is still inappropriate to require such things. You can ask for such things but to penalize for not doing it is a whole different ball game and very innappopriate.

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reader

Mar-25-13 10:52 AM

i believe the writer said student council was asked to do such a treat. nowhere did the writer say anyone was penalized. i think maybe the original writer had a student who was asked to leave student council because of not keeping up their grades. parents are like that, you know.

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KareyS

Mar-25-13 12:26 PM

Reader, I am the author of the original letter and did say SC members were penalized. Repeating myself, if an SC member does not buy a snack on each of the requests they receive a demerit, 3 demerits and you're off the SC.

I am the parent of an active member of SC and her grades are good. The issue is ethics, not my student.

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KareyS

Mar-25-13 6:14 PM

I have to disagree on principle Veritas. Teachers are paid professionals and should be compensated for extra hours they commit to facilitating student organizations, etc. Within reason, of course. I appreciate that they do. Student participation, and Student Council in particular, should be about volunteering.

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IJH16365

Mar-27-13 8:41 AM

I don't think there are any "ethical" issues here. It is very simple. No one has forced the student to join student council. They are made aware of what takes place and what is expected of them. If it's not for them, and they do not wish to take part in the council's activities, they should either not join in the first place, or leave the council.

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st0newa11

Mar-27-13 12:13 PM

IJH, What you're saying is, the SC should be a "pay to play" entity. Essentially, you have to "bribe" your way to stay on the council. So much for wanting to be a leader. Imagine if our elected officials were held to this standard. The shoe would be on the other foot and they'd be shelling out booty to stay in office, verses sucking up added bennies along with their bloated salaries. I think the requirement to supply snacks is shameful. Is it a part of the WCSD negotiated contract with the union?

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IJH16365

Mar-27-13 12:51 PM

I think "Stonewall" is missing the point. It is hardly pay-to-play. This is an occasional thing that typically costs a student a few dollars to contribute to. If there is a financial hardship, obviously a person would not be required to contribute, but they have to make that known to whoever is in charge. Not participating with no prior explanation is a different story, if that is the case. I think the whole elected officials and bribery thing is a bit of a leap. Student councils have done the same thing for years and I've never once heard a complaint. Perhaps if the mother who wrote the original letter simply investigated directly through the school or her child, rather than writing a letter to the newspaper about this, she would have gotten to the bottom of it much more quickly. As with many situations, it seems that people are attempting to create controversy where there is none.

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MTOMTO

Mar-27-13 12:52 PM

"Imagine if our elected officials were held to this standard."

Thay are, and worse.

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MTOMTO

Mar-27-13 2:35 PM

"I think "Stonewall" is missing the point. It is hardly pay-to-play."

It is exactly pay to play and kudos to those responsible for teaching the kids exactly how this facet of our government works.

"This is an occasional thing that typically costs a student a few dollars to contribute to."

That sounds like being "kinda" pregnant. The degree doesn't matter.

"If there is a financial hardship, obviously a person would not be required to contribute, but they have to make that known to whoever is in charge."

No, that would be none of their business. Isn't that why they gave the kids cards for reduced lunches? So they wouldn't be traumatized by it being obvoius about their reduced lunch rate status?

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MTOMTO

Mar-27-13 2:37 PM

"Student councils have done the same thing for years and I've never once heard a complaint."

And they used to treat illnesses with blood lettings and aplication of leeches....just because it has been done before or for a long time does not make it right.

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IJH16365

Mar-27-13 6:44 PM

As I said before, people are creating controversy where there is none. But, there is no reasoning with the unreasonable. So, we'll agree to disagree. When some of these folks who think they know what they're talking about become personally involved with student council, then we can ALL have an educated discussion about it.

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MTOMTO

Mar-28-13 1:13 PM

Believing that there is nothing wrong with requiring students, who only want to better their educational experience and bolster their college resume, to provide "goodies" to the faculty as a prerequisite for their participation is wrong-headed.

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SpaceLady

Apr-01-13 7:44 AM

Taxpayers are providing food to CO Administrations on a daily basis..."lunch meetings" (Applebees is definitely a favorite place by looking at the bills). I doubt those in "high" office even pay a dime to eat at WCCC. Nothing voluntary there! I do not have a problem with a student group deciding to provide teachers a treat with the purpose of thanking them. What I do see as a problem is punishment if you do not participate. I also see a problem with a double standard...providing treats that have been denied to students at their parties.

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saveourschools

Apr-01-13 12:10 PM

spacelady, the day the district was informed of Brandons spending at the casinos, Jan 24, he also charged almost $80 at Applebees. I guess he bought lunch for the administration while discussing how they are going to explain his "mistake" to the board on the 25th?

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