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March 7, 2013

Dear editor: Immigrants, not Americans, must adapt. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Sept....

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reasonrules

Mar-07-13 5:53 AM

If you don't want to hear about it then don't write a letter like yours. You forget the ideals of America let everyone beieve what they want and their culture is part of the American tradition. As long as anyone follows American rules and abides by the laws of land then what do you care about their culture. This nation WAS NOT founded on christian beliefs. Most of the founding fathers were Diests, so get off your high horse. And lets not forget your so called christian well off people of that time period all had slaves, so much for your christian ideals and how about that good ole christian idea of burning and hanging good citizens for not believing in their god, should we bring back that old way of horror? Maybe you should be the one to go find another pace to live.

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nurselsteele

Mar-07-13 6:36 AM

No disrespect Intended Sir but~ Your Letter to the editor couldn't be more Offensive! So the idea in your head is "if you ain't white you ain't right" ? Thats what i got from your letter! This is 2013 Sir and You Sir are NO Christian! Who do you think you are to Judge others because of the color of their skin? or the language they speak? I was born and raised in Warren PA, and for over 200 years that county has been 100% WHITE well get over it, it's time for a change, obviously since it's a "retirement" community you would have that stance... Well guess what my friend; you wont live forever and the "other races" will move and make a home in that county for many years after your gone. The christian faith would guestion your loyalty if they read this. In god we trust---- hmmm where have I seen that ? hmmm ON MONEY!! I moved my children from Warren 11 years ago because of people like you!! Moved to Erie, where they would learn about other cultures.You Sir ar

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JeriEllyn

Mar-07-13 7:47 AM

We can argue about all of this until the sun goes down, (or our looming demise), but what I think we all DO agree on, is the country is taking a nosedive. There are urgent matters at hand that demand immediate attention. These are the things that should be foremost on our agendas. A nation splitting apart will only add to the chaos. We need to stand together as a nation and meet these problems head on. Sacrifices will inevitably have to be made in some form or another in order to accomplish any reasonable solution to our most difficult problems. We all need to man up, shut up and get busy.

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RandomObserver

Mar-07-13 8:41 AM

Could have made the letter a lot short and just wrote, "I am a bogot."

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RandomObserver

Mar-07-13 8:42 AM

And of course, I hit a typo... "bigot".

But seriously, why would you write a letter telling the world you are intolerant of all other people who are not like you?

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MTOMTO

Mar-07-13 8:55 AM

This letter is, historically, extremely short sighted. I can imagine a Native American saying something very similar to this letter when our ancestors "immigrated" to their America. I think that the only differences would be the specific languages and religions cited.

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Brazil

Mar-07-13 9:23 AM

The only thing I was left to wonder is if this guy is one of the Warren County folks that has the Confederate flag flying from his porch or whether he has the sticker on the back window of his truck or maybe both.

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Frugaltaxpayer

Mar-07-13 9:31 AM

Although I do not agree with many of the writers comments, I don't see where he is blatently racist. And if having a different opinion than you makes him a bigot. Then most of the people commenting here are then bigots. I see a man that is proud of his country, and worried that change could hurt that country he loves.

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BrookP

Mar-07-13 10:17 AM

While I do agree with having to learn the English language if you intend to stay in this country (just as I would not expect another country to cater to me and my English), the writer has conveniently forgotten that no matter what religion our founders were, they were wise enough to know and write into the Constitution that the government should not promote one religion over another, because the Constitution, once again, gives us the right to believe what we want. It is certainly not appropriate to post Christianity on school walls unless something from the other hundreds of religions are posted, also, as purely a cultural study. The idea that if god offends you, you should move is unconstitutional, sir. Your religion is blinding you to the rights of the citizens.

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garypayton

Mar-07-13 11:56 AM

Sometimes you don't have to call out bigotry and jingoism when you can simply read the exact definitions in a letter to the editor. In my opinion, it was irresponsible to print this letter.

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cjschuckwagon

Mar-07-13 12:08 PM

Right on! If you Are here illegally, get out. For those of you that see bigotry, that is your right to express that. I agree wholeheartedly with the author, and his thoughtful way of expressing himself. Those that would censor him reveal a shallow intellect, and are in fact part of our nations problem.

Old timer, I'm with you.

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Frugaltaxpayer

Mar-07-13 12:23 PM

Gary, I guess this makes you a Bigot too. The way that you demand everyone should live by your rules and trample on eveyone elses rights. Bigot:a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance.

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garypayton

Mar-07-13 12:30 PM

We're all expressing opinions here. If you have sensitivity towards the word "bigot," perhaps you ought to examine your values. In your mind, who should be included and who should be excluded from a chance at the American dream? The letter writer is pretty clear where their values lie. Where do you stand??

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Frugaltaxpayer

Mar-07-13 12:39 PM

I stand that many are busy trying to control others lives, disparaging others through name calling and labeling, Many never listening to others opinion and quickly disregard any beliefs that are not lock step with them. There are many points of view. Maybe, just maybe you should step off your high horse and look at things from the ground level.

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reader

Mar-07-13 12:54 PM

brookp, i don't think it is christianity posted on school walls. if something says "in god we trust", sounds like it is meant to mean any god, not just a christian god. different religions believe in a supreme being and refer to it with different names. and if this offends athiests, throw away all your american coins and dollars and see how far you get.

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MTOMTO

Mar-07-13 1:17 PM

"In your mind, who should be included and who should be excluded from a chance at the American dream? The letter writer is pretty clear where their values lie. Where do you stand??"

Excluded: anyone who has entered the country illegally.

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AnotherOpinion

Mar-07-13 1:34 PM

Exactly MTO! There is a LEGAL way to enter this country and become a citizen. All those that do it the right way are more than welcome.

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BrookP

Mar-07-13 1:41 PM

reader, I'll partially agree with you. The term god does refer to any higher being, however, based on what the writer had just said before that, he was probably referring to a Christian god. I doubt he was talking about a Muslim or Sun god. Additionally, your last comment about atheists became a little unconstitutional to me. Atheists have just as much right to their lack of beliefs and have the same right to their governmet not promoting a religion. Schools are government agencies. So, any god posting in schools, again for cultural study only, would demand equal representation of non-god ideas.

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BrookP

Mar-07-13 1:44 PM

Oh, I also believe that god references on our money is unconstitutional. A belief system has nothing to do with monetary dealings of a country, especially in a country sworn to uphold the lack of promoting religion.

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garypayton

Mar-07-13 2:39 PM

Nothing in this letter mentioned "illegal" people in the USA. It references non-English speaking, culturally diverse new-comers. Just like the Italians, Swedes, and Polish immigrants were when they arrived. Their CHILDREN learned English in school, but most still spoke their native languages at home and often in their workplaces. To work in a brewery in America 100 year ago it was often required to understand German so that you could communicate with the German-born managers and foremen. Why are today's immigrants held to a different standard than our ancestors were?? I can only guess.

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Lifelongresident

Mar-07-13 3:07 PM

Gary,

I think the rub happens when we have to spend millions to change signage and literature to be bi-lingual. At least that's where I think we should draw the line.

I agree with what you said our ancestors likely spoke their languages, etc... but they were learning English along the way and not demanding we change signage etc... (which btw is costing millions) they learned to read English so they knew where to go.

Granted this isn't what the letter writer stated, but it's my take on it.

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Lifelongresident

Mar-07-13 3:12 PM

Bottom line as others have eluded to...

Go through the naturalization process legally, get your SSN, earn a paycheck and pay your fairshare of taxes and you deserve all the same rights as other citizens.

Sneak into the country illegally and milk the government for all it's worth without contributing a nickel in taxes, in that case they should be shipped back to where ever they came from.

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Brazil

Mar-07-13 3:14 PM

Writer Quote "This idea of America being a multicultural community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity". Question --- Who's identity?

Frugal Quote -Many never listening to others opinion and quickly disregard any beliefs that are not lock step with them. There are many points of view.

Writer Quote “ If you agree - pass this along; if you don't agree - I don't want to hear about it. – AMEN”.

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dudewitude

Mar-07-13 3:40 PM

Good article old timer. I agree with most all of it. I don't think things like the pledge to the flag should be stopped because some immigrant family dont like it or aginst their religion, or find it offensive. Or not saying Merry Christmas because it has Christ in it. What about the rights of the American's wanting to say this or pledge the flag. The Americans are the ones that seem to be getting put in the back seat when it comes to thoughts, religion or history. American beliefs are being tossed out because immigrants are coming here however they do weather legally or illegally and find this or that offensive. Then someone comes up with the idea to change it not to cause problems. It's America, if you don't beleive in this or that you are free to leave or not pay attention to it.

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MTOMTO

Mar-07-13 3:53 PM

"Nothing in this letter mentioned "illegal" people in the USA."

You asked me where I would draw the exception line. I did.

BTW: Eligibility for naturalization One of the requirements to become a naturalized United States citizen is that applicants must also have a working knowledge of the English language.

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