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City council revisits Penn-Liberty intersection

Rehashes figures, learns that PennDOT will cooperate after decision

February 21, 2013

For the third consecutive month, Warren City Council discussed what to do with the intersection of Pennsylvania Avenue and Liberty Street at its meeting Monday night....

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Kinzua1

Feb-21-13 2:14 AM

Have'nt you people kicked this "Dead Horse" enough????? I thought it was in plain view,how the majority felt the four way stop was better than with a signal? I have not seen or heard of accidents in the paper. I drive in that intersection daily,and I too feel it is very safe and efficient just the way it is.Let's not kick the dead horse any more,move on people. This is all of our money,and town,not just a few.

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Kinzua1

Feb-21-13 2:15 AM

Have'nt you people kicked this "Dead Horse" enough????? I thought it was in plain view,how the majority felt the four way stop was better than with a signal? I have not seen or heard of accidents in the paper. I drive in that intersection daily,and I too feel it is very safe and efficient just the way it is.Let's not kick the dead horse any more,move on people. This is all of our money,and town,not just a few.

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Kinzua1

Feb-21-13 2:15 AM

Have'nt you people kicked this "Dead Horse" enough????? I thought it was in plain view,how the majority felt the four way stop was better than with a signal? I have not seen or heard of accidents in the paper. I drive in that intersection daily,and I too feel it is very safe and efficient just the way it is.Let's not kick the dead horse any more,move on people. This is all of our money,and town,not just a few.

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Eaglewatcher

Feb-21-13 7:44 AM

I too drive through there all the time and I see unsafe things often. Just wait when the new building has workers going to the parking lot. Just because someone has not been hit doesn't mean that it won't happen. Cell phones plus lots of cars and people in the same place says to me danger.

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Eaglewatcher

Feb-21-13 7:51 AM

I just can't believe we have parts that don't fit. Something is wrong with that picture. I don' t understand why something was not done in the last two years under the last traffic study. Who was sleeping on the job? It was us the citizens who were asleep and not questioning what was going on before this. I am glad we are awake now. I just don't want someone killed.

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DonnaC

Feb-21-13 8:51 AM

There are two times a weekday that the intersection is NOT safe. The intersection bottle-necks between 8:45AM and 9AM and again in the afternoon during "rush" hour, when GROUPS of pedestrians from town heading to or from work are competing with traffic of same in addition to school traffic.

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pheromonious

Feb-21-13 9:07 AM

I think they should put the light in. I too drive through there all the time and I have seen pedestrians almost get hit. It's a high traffic area and for the pedestrian's safety, I think the light should be re-installed and the city should eat it. I see people on cell phones all the time so that law is not being enforced enough and I also see people who don't even stop at that corner. It's too dangerous, so just put the light back. It's causing a lot of back up traffic up to the Hickory St. bridge too

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Jimmy1

Feb-21-13 9:23 AM

Why would it have to be a overhang light! Why not just put them on poles on the corners like other cities do? Simple fix to a big problem, or better yet leave well enough alone, traffic seems to move better the way it is.

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Brazil

Feb-21-13 9:37 AM

Good question Jimmy. The point regarding the two bottleneck times is spot on. To me that means that either a light is needed that provides a 3 to 1 time set for PA Ave or if you want to keep it a stop sign it should be a two way stop.

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DonnaC

Feb-21-13 9:40 AM

And then there's the "Grumpy Old Man" factor, you know, the driver who doesn't wait his turn because he doesn't think he should have to because there's "supposed to be" a light there.

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MTOMTO

Feb-21-13 11:50 AM

"And then there's the "Grumpy Old Man" factor"

Who are you calling old?

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justobserving

Feb-21-13 12:03 PM

Two years, nobody hurt, traffic moves smoothly, non-issue. Leave the light out. If you have an issue with the intersection learn to drive

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MTOMTO

Feb-21-13 1:04 PM

I think the light is more needed in front of the entrance to BiLo. I have seen many more near misses and accidents there than at Penn & Liberty.

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Brazil

Feb-21-13 1:16 PM

Yeah traffic moves slowly. I always like the lines 5-6 cars deep on the avenue, and during end of work day sometimes backed up to the bridge, so cars can all stop and observe no traffic coming out of Liberty. I drive it multiple times a day. It doesn't run smoothly

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DeborahKittner

Feb-21-13 1:28 PM

The low technology decision would be a sustainable way to move forward. It sounds like a two-year "study" has already been completed at minimal cost: No reported accidents, some people deal with backups a couple times a day - not all, and drivers are apparently alert in that area. I recommend the non-conventional route of not spending tens of thousands of dollars on an unnecessary technology.

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Lifelongresident

Feb-21-13 3:12 PM

Asking drivers to wait 15 to 20 seconds is an incredible hardship. These people are important and can't afford to give up that kind of time waiting on pedestrians. Who do you people think you are saying it's worked for 2 years so just leave it alone?

I can't believe it's been taking me a nearly 30 seconds longer to get home, it's high time we spend $150,000 so I can get home at a decent hour!

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MTOMTO

Feb-21-13 4:21 PM

Just place "CROSS AT YOUR OWN RISK" signs at the pedestrian crossings. Like a wet floor sign relieves liability.....no problem.

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Pennajoe

Feb-21-13 5:32 PM

Sorry for the last two posts. As of June 2010, Meadville had permanently replaced traffic signals with stop signs at seven intersections, and had begun trial periods at an additional nine intersections. It works there, why not here?

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