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Got respect?

February 13, 2013

Dear editor: The other day I had the opportunity to hear the morning announcements at a local high school. Over the speaker came, “Please rise for the pledge to the fla....

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BrandonTroutman

Feb-22-13 6:07 PM

Will post this in other posts regarding this, but this six word start to The Pledge of Allegiance was just to get it going so to speak. It's like in some churches and other places where verse and song are performed, a leader will begin and everyone else will join in. It was done that way in Sheffield when I was in school. We stood and said the Pledge, and that was that. It was never an abbreviated version. It was understood by the students what the start of the Pledge was meant to accomplish, and that was for all to join in and recite it.

Do I feel that history classes and teachers in general should place more emphasis on the Pledge, the Flag, and the respect for honoring both? Absolutely. As for the whole explanation above, it was simply for that, not for anyone's patriotism or lackthereof.

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BrookP

Feb-17-13 11:04 AM

Why not study the word of science, to understand the amazing world around us and how everything developed over millions of years. The examination of credible, verifiable evidence is a challenge we should give to our children. Encourage them to question everything, even the very things that we've taught them, so that they may determine truth for themselves, based on evidence.

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Backwoods

Feb-16-13 8:06 AM

archaeo1…there are a lot of beliefs that people have (other than self) that are not such a good thing. I’m not a bible scholar either but I do study the word of God and like to discuss and look at others interpretations.

I believe most of the bible truth is very easy to understand, for example (thou shall not) means “don’t do it,” a (blessing) is a “blessing,” and a (curse) is a “curse.” (16 blessings – 58 curses)

archaeo1…correction should come through love and understanding through study and discipleship. WHY? Because H*ll is still a burning.

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archaeo1

Feb-15-13 5:57 PM

He made us in his own likeness,Do you believe gays are a mistake?Maybe you believe they arent born that way and they could just pray the gay away. Try speaking with pastors of different churches at least 4 you'd be amazed.Never claimed to be a scholar of the bible personally but like you if WE believe in something other than self its a good thing. May the God of Your understanding bless you.

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Backwoods

Feb-15-13 4:40 PM

archaeo1…I believe you are correct that God loves everybody. That is why he sent his son to die for our transgressions.

As for interpretation, I want to try to understand where others (who differ with me) are coming from. That is why I like to sit down and open the bible with someone who’s interpretation is different.

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garypayton

Feb-15-13 11:14 AM

BW: God will judge. Not you or I. Let's leave it to Him.

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archaeo1

Feb-15-13 9:07 AM

I believe the God of My understanding loves you straight or Gay. Everyones beliefs can be different as everyones interpetation of the bible can be . God is Love in my opinion .Keep it simple.

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4thekids

Feb-15-13 9:01 AM

I wish you would have asked an adult why the pledge was being said that way while you were there. They would have explained that at "our" high school they START it that way for many different reasons, but you can rest assured that the teachers in each classroom and multipurpose room have their students rise and recite the entire pledge. There are teachers who are veterans in the building who do a wonderful job of educating the students on the importance of patriotism and I am quite sure you passed the display case right inside the front doors which honors soldiers currently serving in the armed forces. It is misunderstandings like these that cause animosity where there should be none. They proudly and respectfully say the whole pledge as a whole school everyday of the year at "our" school.

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Backwoods

Feb-15-13 6:59 AM

GP you said you “don’t get it”, well you’re not the only one, and I don’t either. You then go on to say that, “I only worship my god.” First of all I would like to understand how, (if placing one’s hand over there heart as an act of patriotism) you can consider it an act of worship?

Secondly. I have ask you before and I’ll ask you again, I would like to sit down with you, open what ever book or what ever you may use as a written guide to your beliefs in the God that you worship. I would like to try to understand what kind of a God believes in abortion and homosexuality. I like to know so maybe I could understand what kind of a God endorses these actions that you are always defending.

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garypayton

Feb-14-13 2:34 PM

I'll take that comment as your concession speech. Good day.

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MTOMTO

Feb-14-13 2:27 PM

"Alright GP, so clearly you don't get it."

Sounds like a personal problem to me.

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st0newa11

Feb-14-13 1:42 PM

Alright GP, so clearly you don't get it. I've said enough. Moving on...

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garypayton

Feb-14-13 11:55 AM

Just because I don't "get it" YOUR WAY doesn't mean I don't get it. You talk like an Iranian cleric. If you have your way, maybe I'll get my hand cut off for not placing it over my heart during the song. I love my country, but I only worship my God.

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archaeo1

Feb-14-13 8:08 AM

Brooke, My "God Bless America" is my feeling . To Bring Religious folk into it has little to do with it....May the God of your understanding bless you!

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Backwoods

Feb-14-13 7:26 AM

Patriotism or love of country is taught by example but sadly many of those who have benefited the most from this country are the least patriotic. One might use our president as an example; he will not hold his hand over his heart or wear a flag pin but goes around the world apologizing for our nation. This kind of action from a man that has been on the government dole all of his life speaks volumes about the direction our nation is headed.

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OpenYourEyes

Feb-13-13 10:10 PM

This argument is pathetic. Instead of bickering with each other about who's right and who's wrong based on your own personal moral codes (not thrusted onto you by any form of government we have)why don't we lead by example and quit looking like a bunch of clowns? The name of this is "Got respect?". Clearly nobody in this forum has the respect nor maturity nor patience to listen to each other and hear every individual out. These discussions are barbaric...

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st0newa11

Feb-13-13 9:12 PM

You don't get it GP. Those million+ patriots died to ensure that you retain the freedom to stand there with your hands in your pockets, if you want to. The question remains, How can someone NOT love this country enough to pay proper respect? Not enough hand-outs? We are blessed people and I will join Mr H. in ALWAYS standing tall and rendering due respect. I'm confident that vets who have lost limbs will always do likewise, if able. If you don't understand love for country, it's your loss. God bless YOU and America.

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garypayton

Feb-13-13 4:18 PM

When "respect" is considered mandatory and compulsory, you need to start using different words for it. Words like like mandatory and compulsory. So much for freedom...

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writer10

Feb-13-13 3:54 PM

One thing I have to wonder is that fact that they said there was a period of silence. Could something have gone wrong with the PA system in which the rest of the pledge was cut out.

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st0newa11

Feb-13-13 3:43 PM

Since when does respect equal worship? I didn't read anywhere in the article about bowing down before the red, white and blue. Bet you never called your dad, "Sir", did you? Some folks just don't get it. It's a waste of time trying to explain it to them. Everyone, just enjoy your liberty while you can.

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BrookP

Feb-13-13 3:19 PM

For all you religious folks, I find it curious that you say god bless America, instead of god bless the world. Do you want to keep all the blessings just for us? Just saying.

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SpaceLady

Feb-13-13 3:18 PM

As a parent of a Veteran of Iraq.. I thank you for your words. Years ago I remember a bumper sticker that read "This is America, Love it or Leave it" Saluting the flag, placing your hand on your heart during the National Anthem, Reciting the Pledge is a way to show one's gratitude for the sacrifices made by those who served and for those of us that are thankful to live in this Nation. I for one am grateful and thankful, I raised my children to be the same. It all begins at home.

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MTOMTO

Feb-13-13 1:38 PM

"RESPECT is a two way street."

Although it seems that the big question is if there is a traffic light at the intersection?

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garypayton

Feb-13-13 1:18 PM

Excuse me, but my family are not required to worship a song, a poem, dead slave owners, or a wind-blown banner to be patriotic Americans. Show some RESPECT for folks that don't blindly worship relics and symbols. Blind idolatry is not RESPECT. RESPECT is a two way street.

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Frugaltaxpayer

Feb-13-13 12:08 PM

Crimson is correct on how it is suppose to be. However, many students may not be participating. Funny how times have changed. Used to be the teacher initiated the pledge and stood with the class while recieting it and taught proper ediquette. Now its done over the PA system? Is this a union, personal liberty thing?

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