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February 3, 2013

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archaeo1

Feb-07-13 1:42 PM

Stoneman,re;Brevitys sake.Carrol O'conner being very far to the left in real life may be your meaning.{Actually I was so far right until 2 years into Bush's 2nd term I had to have Bill O on tv with that monotone voice to even get to sleep.seriously}Probably 30 degrees left of center now. If speaking of the comic book character my cover may be blown. Never got a penney for nothin always said pick yourself up by the bootstraps.Personal life lessons mold who we are and how we think. My empathy for others makes it so I really cant judge those who cant help themselves.Some who I believed should cant to my dismay.I dont know it all..O.K. folks now do you agree or disagree or totally confused?

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archaeo1

Feb-07-13 11:10 AM

Stoneman,50 cents on the dollar is the going rate .Not going to get much with 50 to 90 dollars .It is a joke but how do you police it . We certainly couldnt violate thier constitutional rights.Alot less cash assistance is being abused now,thats a good thing. You can call me anything you would like .."BUT dont ever calls me Johnson". Which Archie? From the comic books I hope. Your comment on help being handed down..Very much agree you see it in every town large and small.. try teaching in the "Hill" and see how quick the frustration mounts. Warren co. Is be a breath of fresh air.

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MTOMTO

Feb-05-13 10:59 AM

“Waiting periods are only a step. Registration is only a step. The prohibition of private firearms is the goal. “ ~ Janet Reno

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colorado

Feb-05-13 10:55 AM

Brazil---you sure have a funny of admitting your wrong but that's ok.

If you think getting gun laws passed that do nothing to reduce violence is winning I guess that's your right. That's Obamas position--like I said, It's all about politics, Apparently you included. So Sad

BTW---did you read the article in this paper how your namesake country Brazil is making out with their gun ban. GUN BANS DON"T WORK LOL

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MTOMTO

Feb-05-13 10:39 AM

Gun control is not about guns....it's about control.

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MTOMTO

Feb-05-13 10:39 AM

“The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.” ~ Thomas Jefferson

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Brazil

Feb-05-13 10:15 AM

actually Colorado thanks for the assist. Wow, I didn't know that DC had a higher crime rate. Of course they do. Do you think anyone isn't willing to admit we have a larger problem in some of our urban centers. That has nothing to do with the overarching goal which is for the Country. As I said, you've lost the war, you just don't know it. Your team is like a country whose lost the war but still is fighting the battle.

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MTOMTO

Feb-05-13 8:31 AM

It requires more energy to make a gallon of corn based ethanol than the enegry that is realized from consuming a gallon of corn based ethanol.

Sugar cane and switchgrass produce much higher ethanol yields than corn which is why it is successful in several South American countries. Using a food stock for energy consumption is not only inefficient, but is diminished food stables to lesser developed countries that rely heavily on it such as Mexico.

Just another example of our government getting involved in something that they know nothing about and making matters worse.

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MTOMTO

Feb-05-13 8:26 AM

"Now that Im on a roll; lets not allow canadian tar sands to be refined in the U.S. until we build more refineries.It will raise the cost of petroleum products for our people in the s.central U.S."

Our existing refineries are running well under capacity. The bottleneck is in Cushing, OK. The first leg of the Keystone XL should help the crude get from Cushing to the vast refining complex on the Gulf Coast. Canadian Tar and shale sands will also be able to be delivered to the Gulf area when "if" the Northern extension of the Keystone XL pipeline is completed.

We are on schecule to become a net energy exporter within the next several years. After the domestic needs are met we will be exporing refined product. Supply and demand should automatically adjust to lower fuel prices.

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st0newa11

Feb-05-13 7:13 AM

Archaeo1, may I call you Archy for brevity's sake? I have to clarify that I have ZERO problem helping those who need help. But I do believe that it should be a temporary thing. I am 100% against the rampant fraud that persists and is growing in our bloated system. I recently reported an individual who was selling his foodstamp benefit for 50 cents on the dollar. His "proceeds" would most likely go toward the purchase of drugs or alcohol, going with his history. I sincerely hope they shut him off. I am against "help" becoming a life-long handout, taught to offspring. I oppose corporate subsidies, except for brief incubation periods at start-up. The best and brightest will stand on their own. Ethanol is bad for ALL IC engines and, as you said, hurts fuel economy. Good day!

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archaeo1

Feb-04-13 8:40 PM

Stoneman,Malthuism great word .I dont agree with everything you said today.But Fat@ complacent I do agree with that. And as for redistribution Its hard to judge who needs help and who doesnt. But we could always start with Farmers why are they susidised. We've gone so far as to put up to 10% ethenol in gas so we can get worse gas milage burn more fossil fuels.{ however gas does not have to have 10% ethanol only 10% of refined gas nationwide] its really about big oil and farm subsidies! Now that Im on a roll; lets not allow canadian tar sands to be refined in the U.S. until we build more refineries.It will raise the cost of petroleum products for our people in the s.central U.S. And the expensive refined sands will be exported anyway. Who wins big oil.I want to see Natural gas vehichles not tar sands.

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archaeo1

Feb-04-13 8:06 PM

Reasonrules,Thank you, there seem to be few students with any real political science backround posting on this bd. Kinzua 1 I do agree politicians and photo ops!Pictures with kids in the backround is poor salesmanship as is declairing victory on a battleship. I believe you may be pretty well armed anyhow. Its a small town!

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st0newa11

Feb-04-13 7:31 PM

"President is no more a socialist than you or I am." How about this, "What we need is wealth redistribution to be fair to everyone." That's NOT socialist? In my book that's the very definition of socialist. We should try an experiment. Let's have a country where people are actually free. If you want to eat, you go to work and earn your way in life. You want more money, you educate yourself and get a better, higher paying job. Don't rely on "benevolent" politicians to steal it from those who've earned it and "redistribute" it to you.

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guessagain

Feb-04-13 6:23 PM

The big problem with these gun laws is that the criminal will still be able to get the guns. It will make it harder for the law abiding person to get them. I am sure if I really want to get an unregistered gun, I can. The same as underage kids do with alcohol. What can we do to try & prevent things happening is to be parents to our kids, not friends.

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garypayton

Feb-04-13 6:09 PM

Man, do I love my gun! I can't wait to take a bad guy down! POW!

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colorado

Feb-04-13 3:00 PM

The nice thing is you do have that choice thanks to those very people.

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colorado

Feb-04-13 1:46 PM

Here are some stats for you to chew on---don't choke-------Virginia's violent crime rate per 100,000= 196.7

Washington, D.C. violent crime rate per 100,000= 1241.1

Virginia has very lax gun laws-----Washington D.C. has very tough gun laws.------You Tell ME----Do gun laws work.

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colorado

Feb-04-13 1:25 PM

You sure picked the wrong state to use to try and support your argument. Your correct that Virginia has fairly lax gun laws. They also have a VERY LOW crime rate. Thanks for pointing out another example that gun laws DO NOT effect the crime rate.

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Brazil

Feb-04-13 12:31 PM

That's just silly. You might want to add that 2 miles away from D.C. is Virginia that has about the most lax gun laws in the Country. Federal law is the only thing that can provide a meaningful chance to have an impact.

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colorado

Feb-04-13 12:26 PM

It's amazing that some of the politicians pushing the hardest for more gun control are from the cities that have the most draconian laws already on the books and the highest rates of crime. Washington,DC---New York City---Detroit, and Chicago---These 4 cities have less than 6% of the population and over 20% of the crime and violence in the U.S. You don't just suppose they should be looking at something besides more gun laws to solve their problem?

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reasonrules

Feb-04-13 12:04 PM

Pesident is no more a socialist than you or I am. He is just another politician just like the ones before him. There is no movement to get rid of the 2nd amendment no more than a movement of getting rid of your religious rights. Get real.

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Brazil

Feb-04-13 10:03 AM

Did you get a chance to watch your hero Wayne Lapierre get embarrassed by Chris Wallace this weekend? Actually Obama was wrong, he gets 51% support and your side gets 47%. You should also take a look at reputable polling that is showing much higher than 50% in favor of specific legislation that the NRA is against. Where do you think the trend line will go with the next mass shooting? Which history tells us is never too far away.

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st0newa11

Feb-04-13 8:46 AM

"It is long past time for those paying the bills, the hard working, long suffering middle class guy and gal with a job who doesn't say much, to be heard." Great idea, in theory, Mr B, but will never happen. Reality indicates that the overwhelming majority of Americans are complacent and apathetic. As a teacher once described them nearly 40 years ago, they're "fat, dumb and happy". He was right then and he'd be more correct in that assessment today. They don't care, and won't care until the impending Malthusian trap is sprung. And then, oh the wailing!

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LeftyBeaulieu

Feb-04-13 8:22 AM

paranoia

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Kinzua1

Feb-04-13 6:53 AM

VERY well written Mr Borger. I am in agreement with you 100%. Obama and his CRONIES jump on the band wagon everytime there is an event such as this.Working on the people's sympathy is a good way to administer gun control and eventually become total socialism(hang onto your seat people)then you will find out what "HELL"is. Thomas jefferson was a smart man,and if you go back and look at visions,you will seem what I mean about OUR 2nd Ammendment.

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