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Super, union wary of guns for teachers

Hufnagel: ‘Teachers are not police...’

January 16, 2013

School officials in Warren County say guns have no place in classrooms. “We hire teachers to educate kids, teachers are not police officers....

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Darrell

Jan-16-13 3:16 AM

In the 1970's there was a school shooting in Israel, they imediatley armed faculty and there has not been an incident yet. In one third of the schools in this country there is either an armed guard or armed faculty. There has not been any incidents in any of those faculties. Furthermore, the State Police fully agree that armed guards or faculty is the best solution.

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Eaglewatcher

Jan-16-13 7:42 AM

Remember that all in Israel havebeenin the army. Israel is not at peace so why follow their example. I agree with the super and union president. Teacher should teach not be trained to kill. Ms. Rapp should say that upfront also. I don't want teachers to be part of a well trained milita.

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25or624

Jan-16-13 8:10 AM

Darrell: "There has not been any incidents in any of those faculties." Well, except for Columbine High School. 12 dead students. 2 dead teachers.

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25or624

Jan-16-13 8:18 AM

And Virginia Tech...32 dead, 17 wounded. VT has its own police force. Of course, though, you are talking about Israel.

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25or624

Jan-16-13 8:19 AM

My examples are from schools with armed security in America. Shouldn't we be talking about America?

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Jimmy1

Jan-16-13 9:10 AM

So tell me how do you plan to handle a shooter? You going to hide under your desk? Go in the halls and put your head between your knees? Tell me I want to know? THE ONLY WAY YOU ARE GOING TO PROTECT THE KIDS FROM A SHOOTER WITH A GUN IS WITH ANOTHER GUN! Wake up warren!

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justobserving

Jan-16-13 9:26 AM

I still see nothing wrong with faculty posessing a Tazer.

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25or624

Jan-16-13 9:49 AM

You handle a shooter by keeping him or her out of a school to begin with. Metal detectors, redesigned entrances with secure, hardened vestibules, video surveillance that isn't just decoration. Yep, it's expensive...but, sad to say, necessary.

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garypayton

Jan-16-13 11:53 AM

You handle a shooter by making sure that someone likely to shoot up a school can't have a gun. The "too many guns requires more guns" argument simply doesn't hold water. If teachers wanted to be law enforcement officers or soldiers, they wouldn't be teachers would they? The super doesn't want guns in the schools, the teachers don't want guns in the schools, and I don't want guns in the schools.

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PlayBall

Jan-16-13 11:57 AM

The Newtown shooter SHOT his way into the unarmed school. Guns for teachers and administrators. Hey, let's TRY it!

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garypayton

Jan-16-13 12:12 PM

Let's not. It's a terrible idea.

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25or624

Jan-16-13 12:18 PM

The Newtown shooter could not have "shot his way in" if the school entrance had been designed so that the glass portion of the entrance was too small for a person to fit through. That's what I mean about entrances designed with secure, hardened vestibules.

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25or624

Jan-16-13 12:27 PM

Let's assume that we arm teachers. Let's assume that some child brings a plastic gun to school and starts pointing it at people. A teacher with a gun drops the kid. Wanna be the lawyer for the dead child's parents? I sure would. Or, how about this, a gun shows up in school, the armed teacher hesitates. The armed intruder shoots a kid or two before the teacher responds or perhaps never responds at all. Wanna be the lawyer for the teacher? I sure wouldn't. Think a hold-harmless clause in the teacher's contract would prohibit such a suit? Think again. Hold harmless clauses are notoriously weak in civil proceedings claiming negligence in instances of death or serious injury.

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travelnron63

Jan-16-13 12:42 PM

So, on the one hand, Rep. Lucas wants to place more responsibility on our teachers, then reduce the pension they have concistentl paid into. Who voted for this guy?

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PlayBall

Jan-16-13 12:47 PM

25: Stop watching American Idol and learn something. NO ONE UNLOCKED THE SCHOOL'S FRONT DOOR. THE IDIOT SHOT HIS WAS IN!

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BrookP

Jan-16-13 12:49 PM

That is exactly what I wanted to hear from our school administration. Thank goodness he is sane. I will absolutely not allow teachers to be packing around my kids. Reconstructing entrances is the sound, logical path, as it is for any business or location that needs to be secure, or even making all exterior glass bullet proof. There are many things that can be done without more guns. Israel is a ridiculous example. Their country is no where near the norm since they are at constant war. Disarming the country except for hunting rifles and shotguns would go a long way, too. Notice I didn't take away your right to bear arms or protect your home.

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BrookP

Jan-16-13 12:51 PM

PlayBall, 25 said to reconstruct building access so it can't be shot in. Learn something.

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PlayBall

Jan-16-13 12:58 PM

You learn something Brook. How interesting that the president has acted within a month's time that 20 white children were killed and yet 500 plus black inner-city kids in Chicago have been killed last year and cricket-cricket YOUR HERO DOES NOTHING!!! Impressive!

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BrookP

Jan-16-13 1:07 PM

Oh PlayBall, where were the last 20 presidents on that issue. You can't focus that comment on just one president.

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25or624

Jan-16-13 1:14 PM

The way I understand it, he shot his way through the glass, similar to the way the entrance to WAHS and a number of other schools' entrances are designed. You reduce the glass area to 5 inches or less horizontally and install a security door. I haven't watched American Idol since Paula Abdul left.

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PlayBall

Jan-16-13 1:20 PM

Oh no you don't!! You're not blaming anyone else for the last 500 black kids killed in Chicago in THE YEAR OF OBAMA 2012 EXCEPT OBAMA!!

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MTOMTO

Jan-16-13 1:23 PM

"Wanna be the lawyer for the dead child's parents? I sure would."

That seems a little morbid to me.

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MTOMTO

Jan-16-13 1:28 PM

"Disarming the country except for hunting rifles and shotguns would go a long way, too. Notice I didn't take away your right to bear arms or protect your home."

Yes, you did, you just took away my handguns.

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MTOMTO

Jan-16-13 1:33 PM

"Oh PlayBall, where were the last 20 presidents on that issue. You can't focus that comment on just one president."

Not enacting executive orders to limit our second amendment rights, that's where the last 20 were.

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25or624

Jan-16-13 1:46 PM

So, Playball, are you suggesting this is about race, a sort of reverse discrimination ploy, where a black president only cares about white children? Wow, that's really bizarre. Are you actually that wacky professor in Florida who suggests the whole thing in Newtown didn't happen? Since you seem to parrot Mr. LaPierre's enlightened belief that guns aren't the problem, just not enough guns, would that make him YOUR hero? And, could you cite your source for 500 black children killed in Chicago in 2012?

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