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Super, union wary of guns for teachers

Hufnagel: ‘Teachers are not police...’

January 16, 2013

School officials in Warren County say guns have no place in classrooms. “We hire teachers to educate kids, teachers are not police officers....

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MTOMTO

Jan-18-13 10:15 AM

That said, personally, It didn't bother me because I wasn't doing anything that could be considered illegal under that law.

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MTOMTO

Jan-18-13 10:12 AM

"I'm just saying, did you call out Bush and Cheney for stomping on the Constitution?"

I am against more government in my life. Bush's executive order allowed the NSA to warrantless monitoring of communications from outside of the U.S. even if one end of the communication is within the U.S. to determine those intent on harming us. Did the NSA exceed their authority aqnd direction? Yes. Do I agree with the "even if one end of the communication is within the US"? No. So I did not agree with Bush, especially as it was done by executive order.

Political pressure forced them to recind the order in 2007.

Congress passed the FISA Amendments Act of 2008 that relaxed some of the original court requirements. The Obama administration officially continues under this law.

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garypayton

Jan-17-13 11:54 AM

You are one big man. do us all a favor and keep your gun in your pants.

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Lifelongresident

Jan-17-13 9:49 AM

Oh and btw, my pistol scares me. It scares me enough to respect it and respect it's use I don't take that lightly. But I wouldn't be able to live with myself if I was unable to defend myself and my loved ones to the best of my ability. There is evil lurking in the world like it or not.

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Lifelongresident

Jan-17-13 9:47 AM

You'll thank me when you're in a movie theater and I happen to be at the same movie and a crazy person comes in. As long as he doesn't shoot me before I can react (which I realize is possible) I may save your life and some of your loved ones.

I think you all might be surprised how many law abiding people are concealing weapons.

It's creepy to me to think people aren't prepared to do what they have to in order to protect themselves and their loved ones.

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Warren100

Jan-17-13 6:57 AM

Scroll down three comments and read up.

(part 3 of 3) -We must keep them, safe.

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Warren100

Jan-17-13 6:56 AM

Teachers are seen as liberal screw-ups who are essentially overpaid babysitters who can’t be trusted not to indoctrinate kids with anti-American Satanism, but are magically deemed trustworthy to be armed & to die for their students. Or maybe catch a few in the crossfire. If they are to be bodyguards for 20 kids, then pay them at that rate. We can’t diss teachers & in the same breath, expect them to kill & die for their students as if that’s their job. Carrying a gun & acting as human shields isn’t their job. Stop saying ‘but teachers agreed to keep kids safe,’ because no, that’s OUR job. The teachers’ job is to educate. People toss in the ‘taking-a-bullet-for-the-kids’ part because teachers are decent human beings. Unlike the sorry sacks who think their right to buy high-capacity magazines trumps the rights of children to be safe in school & not to become pulp. School lockers are not gun lockers. Teachers are not reserve police or temporary SWAT teams. We

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Warren100

Jan-17-13 6:48 AM

(one of two parts) Kids are far more at risk with more guns around them. A simple logistical event to consider is, the mass shooter who opened fire on a MILITARY base in Fort Hood? He attacked soldiers who were trained to kill for a living and were armed. He killed 13 people and wounded 29. If a lone shooter can attack a military base and take down soldiers, how much worse for teachers with terrified kids? Are teachers supposed to be carrying at all times? This just means that any disturbed person – adult or juvenile – knows where the closest gun is. (Very difficult to separate a discussion on gun control from a discussion on mental illness. They go together. ) This comes down to, ultimately, people valuing their right to buy a Bushmaster from Walmart more than the safety of kids and teachers.

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Uncle5

Jan-16-13 9:33 PM

A little thought experiment. Let's say I have a nuclear bomb, and my neighbor has a mortar launcher. He gets mad because I blow leaves onto his lawn, and he feels justified trying to hit my yard with a mortar or two. I retaliate with my "protection" and collateral damage takes out the entire county and its residents. How can anyone agree with Kathy Rapp then, "I truly believe it's not the gun that is killing the person, it's the person who is holding the gun"? Would she reason that the county would still be flattened and everyone dead even if we were not allowed to possess such outrageous "protections"? As Marshall McLuhan said, "The medium is the message". The very ownership of certain classes of weapons is in itself intent, or at least tacit willingness, to kill at a faster rate than a person can aim.

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BrookP

Jan-16-13 7:08 PM

Agreed, Gary.

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garypayton

Jan-16-13 7:05 PM

Only gun nuts want guns in schools. Not teachers, administrators, students, or their parents. Cops and firefighters don't want guns in schools either. Only the gun-crazies do. Guns in schools is a bad, bad idea. Let's hope smarter heads prevail. I don't trust anyone who feels they need to walk around with a gun hidden in their pants. I'm sure it's a thrill for them, but it's creepy to me.

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BrookP

Jan-16-13 6:41 PM

MTO, I'm just saying, did you call out Bush and Cheney for stomping on the Constitution?

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MTOMTO

Jan-16-13 5:51 PM

Who is the man that would risk his neck For his brother man? Lifelongresident, can you dig it?

Who's the cat that won't cop out When there's danger all about? Lifelongresident, right on

They say this cat Lifelongresident is a bad mother..Shut your mouth

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warrenpausa

Jan-16-13 5:19 PM

Have you ever gone to a "meet the teachers event"? What makes anyone think that these people are capable of handling firearms? Tazers are OK, but a teacher with a gun is just another gun in a school.

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Lifelongresident

Jan-16-13 4:31 PM

BrookP, nope. Not I. You wouldn't know I had one if you saw me. That's part of the my advantage.

And yes I've had training.

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MTOMTO

Jan-16-13 4:24 PM

"Not all were little angels, as your comment alludes to."

I made no such assertion. I merely pointed out the our current president is attacking our 2nd amendment and that was a part of the original post.

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MTOMTO

Jan-16-13 4:19 PM

But, the only drawback for this use is that they don't have the range of a conventional firearm.

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MTOMTO

Jan-16-13 4:14 PM

Taser is fine.

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BrookP

Jan-16-13 3:09 PM

I wouldn't have a problem with a couple of tazers in the school building.

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justobserving

Jan-16-13 3:02 PM

I still like a Tazer, nobody seems to comment on that. And by the way, It's Bushes fault!!!!!

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BrookP

Jan-16-13 3:00 PM

Lifelong, you weren't the silly guy I saw walking through Walmart the other day with his barrel and holster showing beneath the bottom of his coat, strutting like he was king sh*t, were you?

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Lifelongresident

Jan-16-13 2:53 PM

really I can't say Jack-***?

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Lifelongresident

Jan-16-13 2:52 PM

I think I should have the "right" to own a tank. You never know when this evil government of ours might turn on us...

My point being... Do I think people should own assault weapons. No.

Do I think that if they take assault weapons away will it make it easier down the road to create more gun bans. Yes.

This is a slippery slope. The NRA has to compromise at some point, because they are looking and sounding like *******es right now.

I'm a sportsman and I have a license to carry a handgun. Those are rights I will die defending.

How's that for some wishy-washy commentary? LOL

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PlayBall

Jan-16-13 2:48 PM

You give up? IF ONLY!!

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BrookP

Jan-16-13 2:46 PM

Jimmy, restricing gun ownership to hunting rifles and shotguns doesn't take away your right to protect your home or form a militia.

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