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January 11, 2013

Dear editor: Ever since the shootings at Newtown, Ct, there has been a rush to judgment on what caused this horrific event....

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Kinzua1

Jan-11-13 1:48 AM

AMEN,pastor,very well said and true.

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st0newa11

Jan-11-13 7:15 AM

... no problem. MURDER it and call it choice. Bottom line: we're decadent. It's a societal thing, not a gun thing.

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st0newa11

Jan-11-13 7:17 AM

Missed aline there somehow, I meant to say, "Don't want your unborn baby, MURDER it and call it choice".

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Backwoods

Jan-11-13 7:55 AM

The moral decay in our society is very evident as we slide down a slippery slop towards judgment unless we reverse our course and soon. It is sad how many in our society and cheering on the moral decline and are calling, “Evil good and Good evil.”

I once ask a very wise man when we would have change and his reply was, “when enough people have had enough and they start seeing the truth.” He also added that through out history that it is usually some insignificant or minor thing that sparks the fires of change. An example might be like what the Queen said, “let them eat cake.” Those 4 words cost her, her head and changed a kingdom.

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MTOMTO

Jan-11-13 8:31 AM

"But rather an effort to turn us into a nation of sheep."

Excuse me, but as a man of God, isn't it your task to tend to the needs of your "flock"? Can someone please explain the difference here?

I'm not for additional gun control. We already have an automatic weapon ban and mandatory background checks, are they just not being enforced?

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warrenparentof3

Jan-11-13 8:38 AM

The catholic church is a big affender of the decline in morals also. any one can get an annulment for any reason.they also let there priests abuse children and push it under the rug or move them to a different church.it is a gun thing and social thing as stonewall says.stonewall you are just living in the past.you call children born to single parents bastards yet don't want abortion.you are just some old white guy hiding behind some made up name living in the same town you grew up in.to bad.i think you would not be such a jerk if you where held acountable for your mouth.old men in warren scare me!!!!anyone who calls a child a********in 2013 needs has a real problem!!

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reasonrules

Jan-11-13 8:50 AM

Breakdown of family values, cmon, say something meaningful. Your letters from the past seem to be stuck on the issue of prayers in schools and public places being deleted in our society. Most of us were taught in our youth that we could pray anytime, anywhere by ourselves. However, religious zealots like you want to force your religion on my children in school. You are so blinded by your religion you just don't get it. I know of a priest who used profanity at a communion and he was forgiven, suposedly, altho an employee of the place where it happened was fired for bringing it attention. Religious people like yourself need to stop thinking your beliefs are ours. As long as you keep religion in your home and in your church everything involving religious beliefs will survive. Just don't try to force those beliefs on others.

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reasonrules

Jan-11-13 8:50 AM

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tired1

Jan-11-13 9:43 AM

Amen, I agree with with the pastors message. well said. Those that want guns taken from decent people should read up on the Holocaust and how disarming the people worked in many other counries in the past 60 years. You will read how many millions of unarmed & defenseless innocent people were tortured, starved and murdered.

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justobserving

Jan-11-13 9:43 AM

I tend to agree with the Father. Gun control is not the answer. I did not see him forcing religion on you reasonrules, he suggests that now that society has moved away from morality and religion everything seems to be going to he-- in a handbasket! Oh, and I guess I'm an old man in Warren.

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Jimmy1

Jan-11-13 10:00 AM

Great letter and so true! Kids now raise them self since both parents need to work just to make ends meet. So today's kids grow up playing shooter up video games and watching the same type of TV shows. Some kids are ok others turn out wanting to bring this fantasy into real life! Ban the movies and shooter up video games. They influence our kids, NOT GUNS. Once they take our guns we all become targets as the bad guys will still get them and use them.

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Riggle

Jan-11-13 10:15 AM

The Roman Catholic Church has big problems of its own. The easy availability of assault weapons is the problem that needs to be addressed. As far as a "decadent" society goes, the Church could try a little harder there, but first they would have to shape up their priesthood.

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justobserving

Jan-11-13 10:48 AM

I don't understand this "easy availablity" stuff. In order to purchase one, I still have to go through a background check, the same as purchasing any other gun. Don't even say Gun Show as we don't even know where the gun that was used was purchased.

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LeftyBeaulieu

Jan-11-13 10:48 AM

This letter to the editor is just a distraction. If we had been following the Second Amendment which specifes "A well regulated militia" we wouldn't be having these problems with gun violence. In the meantime, I wonder what kind of gun Jesus would own?

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justobserving

Jan-11-13 10:53 AM

I also forgot to mention that the weapon was stolen.

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justobserving

Jan-11-13 10:55 AM

Define well regulated, we already have gun laws.

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LeftyBeaulieu

Jan-11-13 11:06 AM

"well regulated" means something that works. Right now the regulations are not working. I do not have the answers but it behooves us to take a good look. Off the top of my head, no one can operate my car without a key. That seems to work well. Are your guns locked up? Do they have trigger locks? This would help immediately.

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MTOMTO

Jan-11-13 11:23 AM

"Off the top of my head, no one can operate my car without a key. That seems to work well."

Really? have you checked into DUI statistics and the number of DUI accidents involving injury or death?

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LeftyBeaulieu

Jan-11-13 11:27 AM

to MTOMTO: no one has used my car without my permission. A locked gun in Newtown may have saved the owner's life and that of 20 small children and their teachers.

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Brazil

Jan-11-13 1:13 PM

Jeez where should I start.

MTOMTO - We don't have full mandatory background checks. There are two major loopholes - The straw purchase loophole and the gun show loophole. So it is not a case of laws not being enforced.

Father Neff - Please explain why European church attendance is a fraction of the USA's, they have the same video games, they have the same TV, probably even less moral, and their gun and murder rates are a small percentage of the USA. While you are at it please explain the mass murders by handgun that have occured in U.S. churches over the past several years if religon is a refuge. Those who want to blame everything else besides guns are selfish. Guns and their availability are not the whole of the problem but they are a definite part of it. Those who keep up the drumbeat for guns in schools seem to miss the point that in cases of mass gun murder where an innocent civilian had a weapon they were killed in each instance

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MTOMTO

Jan-11-13 1:51 PM

"We don't have full mandatory background checks. There are two major loopholes - The straw purchase loophole and the gun show loophole. So it is not a case of laws not being enforced."

Then let's close the loopholes.

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MTOMTO

Jan-11-13 1:56 PM

"Seems to me I remember photos of Nazis doing that as well. The Nazis were very good at "cleansing" or ""Säuberung.""

Seems to me that the Nazis were alo very good at removing guns from private citizens. It made their "cleansing" much easier, didn't it?

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MTOMTO

Jan-11-13 2:30 PM

"no one has used my car without my permission."

No one said you were going to drive under the influence either. That does not make you 100% safe on the road from others that may be.

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Brazil

Jan-11-13 2:53 PM

Yes MTOMTO have you checked with the NRA to be sure that's acceptable. You know kind of like not one Republican House or Senate member making a statement until their sugar daddy (The NRA) had their press briefing. Also Since NHTSA began recording alcohol-related statistics in 1982, drunk driving fatalities have decreased 52% from 21,113 in 1982. Do you know what that corresponds to MTOMTO, much tougher laws and drunk driving enforcement. Hmmm......Maybe there's things other than movies, church attendance and video games that can have an effect.

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MTOMTO

Jan-11-13 3:03 PM

"And, by the way, their cleansing was facilitated more by propaganda than by violence."

Just as our government is progressing it's agenda by propoganda, sensationalizing and capitalizing on these terrible actions. Why are they governing in crisis mode? The fiscal cliff was put into place in 2011 and nothing gets dtarted until 3 weeks to go? Now it's the debt ceiling, that was why the fiscal cliff was there to begin with? Yet a gun control proposal can be completed in under two weeks?

BTW, Propoganda didn't commit Genocide.

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